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thank you for your input but i have already CLEARLY stated that this is not an option.
this is social circle game. i don't want to go into the details...
i'm waiting for a bit more of a text convo first.
tell me how to deal with the shyness instead
The way that reads to me is this. You arent considered to be an alpha male within your group.
Therefore your wanting to see a lot more interest from her before you take the plunge and ask her out.
If you were more alpha, she would be more attracted and more willing to grab you first chance she could and therefore not be so shy and of course you would have asked her out by now.
Asking her on a date does not mean asking her to have a long term relationship with you, its simply going to do something together, it dosent have to be all that romantic.
Also from what you say, Id say you have no kino going on with her. I think this is the sticking point for you, you have no kino escalation going on and therefore the date, from your point of view, represents permission from her to kino escalate.
This is just not alpha behaviour.
It sounds like you have a lot of other stuff in your life to fix.. go fix it and these types of problems should just go away.