Met a girl in a bar exchanged numbers. She texts me a few days later to help her move a bookcase. I did, tried to set up a date wasn't panning out. So i dropped it.

A month later i txt her to hang out and we do. I did effing amazing i would say. Ramped her interest, light kino and just great convo. End of the night she was super smiley and saying she was in a real good mood. i take her home and she lingers in my car and i don't go for the kiss.

Nxt time she hits me up and wants to go to the movies. We do. We go back to her place and i try to kiss her and she turns her face. so i back off and thats cool. Then we get into a deep convo about our beliefs and such. We then go with her friend to a close by bar. I'm having fun with her friends dancing and im hammered i get her to grind with me and we start making out. I take her back to her place and get busy. I read all about foreplay and i did well considering it was my first time. Still didn't get laid though. I did everything but get it in her. Either she wouldn't let me or i was too drunk to get it in. Honestly cant really tell.

So for two weeks we txt lightly. she tries to get me out but i'm bz. finally i get her out again alone. I get her food and we go out for drinks. she's flirty and talking about giving head and we go on to past ex's. I got none so i just make up half truths. i leaned in for the kiss a few times but she never complied. I take her back to her place and walk her to her door. She opens the door quickly and dashes in. And i'm like no hug? she complies and i force a kiss which now i realize she obviously didn't want. she even said why was i so forceful.

As she's walking in i say well wats goin on? do you just want to be friends because i don't want to waste time. She replys let me think about it. Nxt day i get the ljbf txt. I write cool whatever good luck bye.

And two days later i write a dumb message to her about me still carrying my v card and how great she is. That was my nail in the coffin. So I delete her and cut all contact and am moving on.

Someone help me out here where did i go wrong. shit was going so well and all of a sudden things started going downhill and it all just fell apart. I have my own ideas and definitely learned from this experience. but i would love some guru wisdom to shed some light for me.

Well, part of the problem was not knowing how to escalate properly and f-closing her. Should've done it. A girl who does basically everything except sex, is a girl who would have sex if you have escalated correctly.

The problem might not be with you, she obviously got into a deep conversation with herself and is scared shitless of what's going on. I'd say move on since it's still too early and there's little or no attachment from both sides. Keep thinking about it and you'll drive yourself insane. Experience learned, more to come.

If she contacts you again, give her what she's been craving and don't be drunk.

Yeah she definitely had a antislut thing talking about becoming a good catholic again. So she def had some issues.

That doesn't absolve me from the holes in my game. Poor calibration from me for pushing so hard.

Man though everything between us felt so fucking great though. Does that happen? Can i feel it was going amazing while it wasn't for her?

I'm really trying to just get over her now.

Shit happens mate I know that from 1st hand experience. It can feel great for one and not the other, but what I suggest is put it out of your head NOW!!!! Before you oneitis yourself anymore!! Good luck!

She wrote me a reply to my dumb message.

Firstly my message was really afc. I admitted to being a virgin and being depressed for a year. it was a decent block of txt.

Her reply was a bigger block of txt. Explaining what i did wrong and saying if i ever wanted to talk we can.

What is that, a pity reply? An open door to ljbf? or do i still have a shot?

Man I really wanna read those texts now , haha.


But seriously tho , you should post them .

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I saw the texts before you deleted the post... Man, keep her around. She's a good girl and even having someone like her as your friend is great. If you think you can handle the "oneitis" part, definitely stay friends... If not, yeah get out.

Otherwise just think of the value someone like her adds to your life. And she might have hot girlfriends... Besides that, you don't really know what's going to happen in the future.. This whole "friendzone" thing is very easy to get out of anyway. Just accept it but keep trying (not trying hard). Be more yourself, keep kino up and you'll get another shot at it.

Good on you for deleting the texts, we already have too many privacy issues;)

Just don't get caught up with hanging out with this girl a lot if she isn't adding value to your life in terms of what you want out of life. You're in this forum presumably because you want to date and have sex with cute girls. Make sure being besties with this girl doesn't stall out that process for months or years.

Also true I agree. If you can't handle it stay away. Dedpends on your personality I guess...