Ok cheers guys really helpful topics on the forum!

I'm still having trouble closing, I can get a number like childs play, 'gift of the gab' us northerners say

But closing I don't know man, I was thinking it was a slight lack of outer game, but using rapid escalation (shout out to Liam McClean the ledge) I can usually get further than I was before.

E.G
Meet two girls, one bf comes within minutes have the other girls number + fb details. BF asks to go home for a smoke, I ask to join get invited back. Touching her leg , back of the neck can feel her getting into it, slightly shaking etc she's touching my arm amongst other POI's but she still asks her friend to call her a taxi, I walk her down stairs pull her in for a kiss as I open the car door and she gives me the cheek.

But I mean I've not seen a head turn that fast since the Exorcist film.

I was, not fuming but a little meffed, did everything right, didn't get mixed signals. So going to give her a call on Monday.

Just in general any tips for closing? I've not got any issues with anything else except outer game (slightly)

Much appreciated!!

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I found that closing is a lot easier when you make it clear throughout the interaction that you are intrigued by the girl as a person, not a meat bag you can have fun with later on. Otherwise you are running a risk of ASD kicking in.

Al

ASD? AssHole Syndrome?

Yeah I do use a line like "You know what I like about you? Your different [insert something specific to girl]" or show interest in career or study subject, ask a few questions etc. I like asking things they don't usually get asked.

Sorry if it came across like a twat in the post!

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lol
ASD = anti-slut defense. There were times when a girl would literally climb on my lap to make out with me and then take off for the hills. Go figure. I do know that making a good impression on her friends will get you farther than a kiss close.

Al

Haha yeah I focused on the bf so I could befriend her mate without him trying to go alpha. I really think it may have just her ASD in retrospect.

But any general closing tips you have would be good for future reference! Thanks dude.

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Here's what works for me:

After getting her number, keep talking and amp up the interaction to the point when she can't get enough of you. Now you cut it off "oh I really got to get going."

This works with stories as well. I was telling a girl about me getting flipped by a wave and loosing my shorts. That's where I went "I can't even tell you the rest, 'cause you are obviously a pervert." I got a text from her half an hour later saying something like "you better tell me the rest of it"

Al

Okay yeah that's really helpful cheers Al, she did respond well when I would ignore her and talk her friend/s bf. I'm definitely going to try that next time, I have my own naked embarrassing story I can use too haha

Another thing on this example, when I asked when I would see her again on the walk down she said "how about let's leave it to fate" sounds like she wasn't really interested in a second meeting so will probably suggest we have an after 8 drink on the phone, Monday.

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