Disengaging from her is pretty much your only chance. Once she starts talking about other guys to you, you are deep deep in the friendzone.

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So... from here the only way to proceed is to give her the cold soulder. Don't always reply to txt, don't talk as much when I see her, don't like or coment on fb. We work at the same place so I can't avoid her entirely. Is that it?

Sorry I'm a noob and I always ear the more atention you give a girl, the beter.

Thank you all for your help.

Don't change a thing about who you are, just stop pointing your attention towards her! She will react in one of two ways, she will either blow it off like no big deal (which shows how little she cares), or she will get mad and kinda freak out when you stop giving her attention.

The fact that you work together will make it hard on you, especially if she starts challenging you with "What's wrong?" or "Did I do something?" type questions. In these cases, just reply with simple answers such as "I've been busy with a new hobby/school/parents, etc.". Do not have "friend" discussions with her! If you do this right she will be going crazy to get your attention, the more she tries, the better your chances of getting her are. Stay strong!


Peace...

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You won't get this girl. Period that's it. Forget it. She's not attracted to you. She just has you as a shoulder to cry on. Otherwise why the fuck would she tell you about another guy she is attracted to. If a girl wants something with you she will not do this.

So with all your energy that you spend on trying to act cool go out and pick up a girl who is into you.

Started the ice SPAM today. Already pulled out once, for about a week, about a month ago, because an uncle of mine passed away, and I was just not in the mood for laughing. She imediately noticed and asked what was wrong. I assume that is a good sign.

As for why she talks about another guys, I thing that is just the way she is. She is the kind of girl that straight up looks a a guy, sizes him up and makes a few dirty coments, like when a collegue of mine bends over to pick up a box she looks at his ass and makes no effort to hide it. Telling me the color of her underware is pretty much a normal talk for her. Like the female version of Barney from "How I Met Your Mother". But everytime she does this I challenge her with something like "make a move, what are you waiting for" or something like that. I do that to act like I don't give a fuck and show an unshakable self-esteem, like any PUA woud. But everytime I do it, she makes up an excuse, like "he's got a girlfriend", "he's not my tipe", "he lives too far away", whatever. Also, she just got from a bad breakup, so she's an emotional train reck.

Usualy I woud agree she is not interested and next her, but we already went out to see a show together. I didn't close, but did dome kino and she was receptive to that. Besides, since she's pretty much the only decent girl at my work might as well use the time to game her, so no waste of energy there.

No. Girls usually do not do this with guys they are interested in. Her included most likely.
You need to get out more with other girls and not waste your time and mental energy. She isn't interested. This part is obvious. Your only chance is freeze out for a while.

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Guess I have nothing to lose with the freeze-out.

Also, I make her laugh a lot and sometimes she acts provocative with me, sticking out her ass to ask if her string is showing, etc. Also she walks and sits really close to me and anytime I try to do some kino she seems cool with it.

Does any of it is an IOI?

No, she is just getting a rise out of you now.

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Why dont you just friendzone her and focus your time on other girls?
Why wasting time to think different tactic, such a wast of energy and time.

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I spend 7 hours a day with her. NOT gaming her would be a waste of time.

Anyway, quick update. Just as I was arriving she intercepted me and asked me if I could take a look at her computer (we don't have an IT guy and I'm the resident nerd). We had this conversation:

she - asked for my help

me: "you're always nagging me. How do you intent to repay all my hard work?"

she: "with my eternal friendship and gratitude"

me: "upgrade that to friends with benefits and we have a deal"

she: "no, no, sir. we are just friends, nothing more"

me: "relax, I'm just messing with you. you are a good friend and I would never make anything to risk that"

She gave me the cue, so I had to try. After she blew me off, the idea was to gain the upper hand and act like I am the one who is not interested.

Less than 20 minutes after that, an inspector from the health and safety department arrived to tour our facility, and I spent most of the day escorting her around the plant and showing her some documents (on the office where my target works). The inspector was kinda young (just finished college) and kinda cute, although not hot. Still, I gamed her and made sure to give her plenty of attention when we were in the office with my target, asking about her degree, talking about music (she had a pin from a band on her jacket) and movies. My target gave us a few jealous looks and send me a few txt with stuff like "she looks like a slut", "did she borrow that outfit from a mortician?" (the girl dressed kinda goth) and other stuff like that. From that point on I gave her the ice SPAM. She send me 8 txt today and I answer only 1 with "busy, talk later" Will asker out again for this weekend, if she flakes I ask the safety inspector (didn't number close, but facebook close) and if she says O.K. will post pictures to salt the wound a bit more.

Sounds like a plan?

Not freezing out long enough and asking her out way too soon after freeze out. I'm talking a week, two, if not three of basically minimal interaction and not to even consider asking her out for a couple weeks. Freeze out pretty much as you are doing for around a week, then ease back into interaction but still very minimum for another week or two, then see what is going on and go from there.

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^^^^ That.

They say every dog has his day, and today may have been yours. The way she reacted to the other girl being around you is positive. If she said "she's cute you should ask her out", then you would be in trouble.

Still, don't get your hopes up.

Personaly, I think the friendzone is a good place to start, because it saves you the hassle of opening, building rapport, etc. Like someone said on another thread, 70% of your work is done, you only have to go the extra 30%.

Now, there are a few things you should consider:

Do you want to stay with her for the long run, or you only want a one night stand with her? If you only want to fuck her once, it may make stuff very strange. Don't forget you work with her and will have to see her everyday after that. Also, if you want her for the long run, make sure you are ready to risk your friendship, because you may end up losing her both as a friend and as a girlfriend.

Wathever the case, and assuming you get her (wich is still very dicey in my opinion) make sure you are both on the same page and think very hard before proceeding.

Personaly, I had several good experiences with relationships that started in the friendzone, but that's just me.

BTW, has anyone else noticed the amount of threads about the friendzone today? There are half a dozen just on the first page of the forum. Guess the hollyday season is making everyone friendly