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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:02 pm 
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Ok yea you got a blow job, but its been 9 months with no sex, its basically friendzone despite the BJ. And you say she wants you bad, well sorry she doesnt otherwise she would've spread her legs by now. 9 months no sex is friendzone every time.

I was in this situation once, got a blow job etc and she seemed keen, but just no sex, actually been there twice. In hindsight it was a combination of being too needy, not escalating properly, and her being a mental basket case.
You are right. But is it still possible by any chance that I can go for her again for sex?


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:08 pm 
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I've already moved on long time ago, but I still have this thing that I need to do in order to completely be satisfied.
So. . . you're telling us that moved on long time ago... but you haven't. Read ^this and tell me that it makes sense to you?

Her goal = your attention. She is getting it.
Your goal = her vagina. You are not getting it.

You've essentially admitted to yourself that you want to fuck and chuck her. You know this, we know this, and she definitely knows this. Could you bang her? Definitely. But why? Is she that much hotter than the other 15 you are working on now? Why is it so important for you to fuck and chuck and hurt her? This is the foregone conclusion for the goal you have in mind.

Technically speaking, the big mistake was not working her over the first few days you met her. It's going to piss you off that in the future, she will fuck guys she's just met but there is no emotional investment involved with that scenario. That's how women are built. On the other hand, you obviously have nothing invested in her as you are gleeful over the thought of fucking and ditching a girl you've been friends with for 9 months time. Maybe this is just a sexual thing... you're horny, you're young, you want to fuck... I get it. And I understand this is a PU forum but dude... let's try ween off of the a-hole pills.
I appreciate your post. It was really insightful and helpful.
I get the idea you're coming with. But let's take her into consideration too: She's horny, she's young, she wants sex. Same goal as mine. How can I go by escalating to sex in such a scenario? I'm well better off without her and she knows it, but this idea of having sex with her is something that I can hardly remove. I want it for the sake of not regretting it later on, please understand.

I've never disrespected a woman, but this scenario is really confusing. It all stems out from our needs for sex, and we both want it but I cannot find a way to hit it back with this girl and just nail her. Yes, I'm currently dating other women, and yes, I do have many women on my side and many options to go for, but it's just stuck in my head.


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Break it off for a while, basically standard friendzone destroyer.

You need to use friendzone tactics, your head is getting screwed up because she is giving you small victories, but no sex. You have to accept you are friendzoned, and use tactics accordingly.

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I get the idea you're coming with. But let's take her into consideration too: She's horny, she's young, she wants sex. Same goal as mine. How can I go by escalating to sex in such a scenario? I'm well better off without her and she knows it, but this idea of having sex with her is something that I can hardly remove. I want it for the sake of not regretting it later on, please understand.

I've never disrespected a woman, but this scenario is really confusing. It all stems out from our needs for sex, and we both want it but I cannot find a way to hit it back with this girl and just nail her. Yes, I'm currently dating other women, and yes, I do have many women on my side and many options to go for, but it's just stuck in my head.
Come on man... you're digging for excuses. Where's the lie? Because you are most definitely lying somewhere. it's nothing to tell a few white lies to strangers on the net but lying to yourself is silly. Look, you want to fuck her because you think you invested 9 months into it and you at least deserve a fuck. Her not giving in is making you feel shitty because it makes you think you failed. It makes you feel like she got one on you. You just don't want to feel as if you got rejected. Yeah, you want a taste but if you really have a whole other options, then banging this girl has nothing to do with sex. So what is it about?

This has nothing to do with your needs for sex because if you need sex, you've got 15 other options... right? This has nothing to do with her needs for sex because if her need for sex was greater than her other needs that are preventing her from having sex with you, she'd have jumped you already.

All of this is probably obvious to you too but you just don't want to admit it. What do you think? That I am some saint who never made a girl cry? If anything, I'm usually the guy to recommend that a guy goes and taps it... it's usually because girls are tougher than boys anyways. In this instance, chasing this one around and wasting all your energy on her doesn't make sense. It can only lead to a bad result. It will only negatively affect your other opportunities. Can't you just keep her around as a kissing buddy? What's wrong with that? You can let her know where you stand. (Which is actually probably the way-in to her V any how) But even still, I'd say it's better to shift gears with this one.


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Firstly its great that you guys have already built up a good physical chemistry between you two. that being said i myself like to stay out of the area of making promises to not be sexual. You and did and thats fine. The thing you have on your hands is a girl who likes to be BAD! The promise you made is the line in the sand, and the sexual tension builds on both sides. Her saying she doesn't wish cross that line is no different from any other LMR (last minute resistance). Now you making out with her friend though this may be a dangerous way to go about things nothing can show her better that you are desirable than the approval of her friends. Hence her heightened show of attraction the next time that you guys met up. She was jealous and there is nothing wrong with that, But she was also trying to make you jealous. The best thing you can do in situations like this is ignore her behavior with other men and focus on your own. Chat up some nearby girls, maybe go a little kino even a number close or two. This will let her that you are a confident and desirable guy. NEVER show her that you are angry with her behavior. In fact i would encourage it by saying look at that guy checking you out. Basically any time she leaves your side you should be talking to other girls. Thus she will become afraid to leave.


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Break it off for a while, basically standard friendzone destroyer.

You need to use friendzone tactics, your head is getting screwed up because she is giving you small victories, but no sex. You have to accept you are friendzoned, and use tactics accordingly.
I am currently giving her no attention. I am not seeing her, only on weekends, and I tend to not make a big deal out of it when she flirts around with guys, because I actually don't mind. I know she's doing it when I'm not around, so why even bother giving her attention when I see her doing it?


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I get the idea you're coming with. But let's take her into consideration too: She's horny, she's young, she wants sex. Same goal as mine. How can I go by escalating to sex in such a scenario? I'm well better off without her and she knows it, but this idea of having sex with her is something that I can hardly remove. I want it for the sake of not regretting it later on, please understand.

I've never disrespected a woman, but this scenario is really confusing. It all stems out from our needs for sex, and we both want it but I cannot find a way to hit it back with this girl and just nail her. Yes, I'm currently dating other women, and yes, I do have many women on my side and many options to go for, but it's just stuck in my head.
Come on man... you're digging for excuses. Where's the lie? Because you are most definitely lying somewhere. it's nothing to tell a few white lies to strangers on the net but lying to yourself is silly. Look, you want to fuck her because you think you invested 9 months into it and you at least deserve a fuck. Her not giving in is making you feel shitty because it makes you think you failed. It makes you feel like she got one on you. You just don't want to feel as if you got rejected. Yeah, you want a taste but if you really have a whole other options, then banging this girl has nothing to do with sex. So what is it about?

This has nothing to do with your needs for sex because if you need sex, you've got 15 other options... right? This has nothing to do with her needs for sex because if her need for sex was greater than her other needs that are preventing her from having sex with you, she'd have jumped you already.

All of this is probably obvious to you too but you just don't want to admit it. What do you think? That I am some saint who never made a girl cry? If anything, I'm usually the guy to recommend that a guy goes and taps it... it's usually because girls are tougher than boys anyways. In this instance, chasing this one around and wasting all your energy on her doesn't make sense. It can only lead to a bad result. It will only negatively affect your other opportunities. Can't you just keep her around as a kissing buddy? What's wrong with that? You can let her know where you stand. (Which is actually probably the way-in to her V any how) But even still, I'd say it's better to shift gears with this one.
Problem is, 3 months ago when we first kissed and we were drunk, she liked it. Happened the other night too and got to all that bj and before-sex stuff. She traveled for 2 months the other day and we got really sexual and attached because of too much texting (which was a huge mistake I made). She even planned the sex and wanted it badly because I was one hell of a passionate motherfucker. She came, and like you said, my biggest mistake was not having sex with her on the first day she came. A week passed by and I was not able to secure an apartment to have sex (Could've done it first night, but oh well...can't change that now). She suddenly stops everything sexual between us and starts talking to her Ex who she hates and he is not even in the country (comes 15 days per year). From there on, I cut connection with her for 3 weeks, she invites me, I do the double kiss thing (kissing her and kissing her best friend when she rejects me) and she got all pissed and upset. Her birthday comes, I don't go but I wish her a happy birthday and I meet her a couple of days later. She starts flirting and moving to other guys to grab my attention, that's all. I didn't want to go for the kiss so things don't get messed up again.

I feel like a 5th grader for typing all of this, but it has to be said.
How can I get her as a kiss buddy? I've done it too many times, but in this case it's different. It's a girl I've known for 9 months and we have a lot of history together.

Sorry for being too detailed but I had to do it.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:51 pm 
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Firstly its great that you guys have already built up a good physical chemistry between you two. that being said i myself like to stay out of the area of making promises to not be sexual. You and did and thats fine. The thing you have on your hands is a girl who likes to be BAD! The promise you made is the line in the sand, and the sexual tension builds on both sides. Her saying she doesn't wish cross that line is no different from any other LMR (last minute resistance). Now you making out with her friend though this may be a dangerous way to go about things nothing can show her better that you are desirable than the approval of her friends. Hence her heightened show of attraction the next time that you guys met up. She was jealous and there is nothing wrong with that, But she was also trying to make you jealous. The best thing you can do in situations like this is ignore her behavior with other men and focus on your own. Chat up some nearby girls, maybe go a little kino even a number close or two. This will let her that you are a confident and desirable guy. NEVER show her that you are angry with her behavior. In fact i would encourage it by saying look at that guy checking you out. Basically any time she leaves your side you should be talking to other girls. Thus she will become afraid to leave.
I get what you're saying.
You don't have to worry about me, I'm always unaffected.
The sexual tension is building, but I don't know if it's two-sided and it's getting cloudy, I can't figure it out.
I'm currently busy working for long hours and having a life besides focusing on having sex with her, but the idea keeps haunting me for no apparent reason. It's like a mission I have to complete.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:29 am 
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Just got 14 messages from her on SPAM inviting me over to a club tomorrow with a group of friends. I have no idea what she's up to, but I won't go.

Guess I'm going to walk away from her and continue gaming other girls.
I just noticed how much thinking about her as a target is wasting enough opportunities with other girls who are craving dates from me and message me every single day.

Thanks a lot for the help guys. I'll repost if anything important happens between us.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:19 pm 
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Go no contact and next. If she comes back crying to you, be clear about your sexual intent and that things will be on your terms if she wants you in her life.

Don't break NC if she never contacts you again though. Retain your dignity. Don't chase a princess until she submits to her Prince (you) like a good girl.


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Go no contact and next. If she comes back crying to you, be clear about your sexual intent and that things will be on your terms if she wants you in her life.

Don't break NC if she never contacts you again though. Retain your dignity. Don't chase a princess until she submits to her Prince (you) like a good girl.
That's exactly what I've had planned.

She's talking to me often, but I don't see a point in going out with her and her friends because this is when she starts "showing off" her new guy friends that she flirts around too much with and comes back to me and back to them and so on and so forth.


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Sounds like she is low self esteem. Avoid her IMO.


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