Never give up Never surrender. There are a billion girls in the world. You have a billion chances.

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You will have to transition into your own game after my opener. There is no script to help you get past first base. It's all about confidence. You must have the mindset you're her superior.

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Thanks for the info in this thread, Darth Vader. Used your opener last night on OKC, she answered in a few hrs, I replied her today and we started the conversation. She's a soft 9, I'm digging her so far, really really cute. Got her number in under an hour. I really want to improve, please critique and tell me what I did wrong and what should I stay away from.


Me: Hey .I would remove that picture on your profile.
HB8.5: Why
Me: Lol, I hope you can take a joke.
HB8.5: Just thought you were adorable and I just had to talk to you for a bit. I'm xxxx.
HB8.5: omg! your dog looks exactly like mine!!!
Me: Lol, don't tell me you have a yorkie...that's awesome!! And your name is...
HB8.5: i hav a silk terrier. xxxxxx
Me: Nice to semi-meet u, xxxxxx. Not being a lazy texter here just I'm at work. BTW, "Eat Pray Love" was one of my fave movies, but my friends say it's just gay...promise not to tell. =)
HB8.5: im at work as well. i think is better, actually. no i wont tell. Lol
HB8.5: sorry i meant to say that the BOOK is much better than the movie
Me: That's usually the case. If I knew I'd enjoy the movie as much, i would have taken the time to read it first. I'm guessing you identify with the main character a good bit...
HB8.5: lol...maybe i do. yeah, bcuz of the traveling, losing love, and falling in love. its got that nice mix! Lol
Me: exactly, a little bit of everything. Which is also the best way to live...balance. You shall be known as Liz from now on, lol.
Me: No, u'r way cuter than Liz.
HB8.5:hahaha...i dont regret anything. ill have stories to tell my grandchildren (or dogs)..lol
HB8.5: Are you Roumanian? the best house musik
HB8.5: phew! i should hope so thanks!!
Me: Ha ha yeah, just realized that was retarded of me...i mean..Julia Roberts?
HB8.5: she's a hottie!!!
Me: Yeah. I'm a vampire from Transylvania.
Me: hottie?I dont think so.
HB8.5:vampire from Transylvania?
Me: I was born there, name is Vlad (like vlad the impaler, aka dracula)... it's usually what people default to when I introduce myself...it can get annoying, lol
HB8.5: lol...I bet. well, i didnt say anything like that. Lol
Me: and yourself? hispanic/turkish mix?
HB8.5:was born in Xxxxxxx (ancestors from india and mongolia)
Me: wow, did not see that coming... NY is amazing, isn’t it? in terms of the people one can meet. You are very hard to read, from your pics...
Me: i mean i would have guessed anyway...after 1347 tries
HB8.5: hahahaha
HB8.5: ill take that as a compliment
Me: it was meant as such I tend to stay away from too direct ones... it's overdone , you hear that …what…20-30 times per day?
Me: so humor me for a sec, how many messages from guys do you get here per day?
HB8.5: umm. a lot! lol its pretty entertaining, i have to say. and flattering. Lol
HB8.5: ok. now ill make you laugh. got a message from a guy in Norway. in a prison!
Me: ha ha ha, wtf ? That is the most random thing I heard today, lol
Me: Well, today I learned that Norwegian prison life is not as bad as it sounds...and did you answer him
HB8.5: blocked him! Lol
Me: that is hilarious
HB8.5: lol...i know
Me: romanian "house"... so you like Alexandra Stan and Inna?
HB8.5: inna and ela rose
Me: they're ok, not my favorites. My best friend is promoting Inna's concert...I think on the 29th.
Me: I will make sure you get a red carpet entrance, my dear. Rose petals, doves flying, papparazis...the whole nine
HB8.5: ahhh!!! i heard about that!!! that is awesome!!!!!
Me: Listen, this is real fun but I have to finish some work. I'd rather talk over text, if you feel comfortable here's my no: (xxx) xxx xxxx.
HB8.5: no prob. my num is xxxxxxxxxx.

Dude...first lass I tried your gambler move on:

Me 6/18/2013 8:37:07 PM
Hey, you're attractive, if you've got the personality to match lets chat and get to know each other. x

Me 6/18/2013 11:49:37 PM
Hey thanks for helping me win a bet with my friend

Her 6/18/2013 11:57:41 PM
And what bet was that..?

Her 6/19/2013 12:02:28 AM
??

Messaged an 18 year old girl with the gambler one, said she had to earn my trust to find out and got the response "hahahaha youre a creep", how should I respond?

Does demographic has to do with the type of responses? I tried to use that pickup but just seam to get negative replies or a flatout "no"........Just cant figure out a good opener for myself

I tried this opener on 8 girls a few days ago on OK Cupid. No responses yet, and they've all been active since that time. Maybe it's where I live...girls in St. Louis are ONLY interested in getting married and having a bunch of kids. Tryin to pick up women here sucks.

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Update:
Now tried this opener on 11 chicks on OKC. Only one response, very negative: "fuck off". Isn't working on OKC here in the Midwest.

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This was the first negative response i've received

Me: Hey I would remove that picture on your profile…

Her: Hey I would stop sending unsolicited advice to people who don't need it... The picture's been working just fine for me...

Me: Lol I hope you can take a joke, I thought you were adorable, I just had to say hi!

She hasn't replied but she has viewed my profile again today.

Any ideas where I can go with this?

Tried to use it on Zoosk. Out of 20+ girls only 1 reply 'Umm.. why?'. Didnt reply to my next mssg. Txted mostly to local girls( Atlanta area).. Prolly has to do with demographic. Most girls in GA are weird :/ However, might very likely to be because of an almost empty profile and lack of pics. Gotta experiment with that.. Will post here later if I see any changes after improving my profile

Canned openers suck online. How hard is that to comprehend for people? The only benefit is you can copy paste it easily to a lot of girls. Take literally 10 seconds to come up with a one liner based on their profile, it will work much better than these canned openers; especially some of these which get responses despite lack of interest. Getting a response from someone uninterested is a waste of freakin time, you want an opener that gets a response due to interest.

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I'm going to have to chime in with my experience too which is mostly negative.

I've had a couple of girls go
"lol oh"
"thx"
"fuck off"
"ummm ok"
etc

HOWEVER, I decided to use the same line with a fake profile of Matt Bomer (lol seriously, it was his actual picture.. apparently women my age (young 20s) don't know who Matt Bomer is).

Here are the responses I got
"lol well your silly how are you doing?"
"well thanks ur pretty damn cute urself"
"thank you. so do you go out to Froggys at all? we should grab a drink"

I don't really browse the Online Sarging section or ask for Online advice anymore because one thing that's been made abundantly clear in the past couple of years: It's all about your looks.

I know some people will say, just be funny or just write a line based on her profile, but if she looks at your profile and doesn't find your pictures attractive, she'll just find whatever you said insulting or creepy.

If you're attractive, then you can literally just say, "sup bitch" or "i'm horny" and get positive results. If you don't believe me, make a fake profile of a very good looking man (no homo) and try it out.

Try to hire a photographer to take pics to create your profile. You should read some subjects on how to create an online profile.

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Hi Guys,

noticed some of you are struggling with openers so thought i'd one that has worked for me can't guarantee responses 100% of the time but you should get enough back same as approaching its just a numbers game. message 20 you may get a few responses, its down to you to make it work, trial and error is all i've done to get conversations going which eventuall flop midway bcause i dont know how to fuckin clooose

Hey, you came across as the kind of person who wouldn't respond to well thought out messages, so I'm just going to be me and say how are you?

Best of luck

I don't like it for two reasons.
One is that it's very risky, it seems to really lay it all on the line and I'm not sure the gain really balances the risk. I mean you could easily repel a target which would have materialized otherwise. But it seems unlikely that this is really the clincher for a girl.
Also it requires giving a compliment. I have a no compliments policy.