Hey guys, I kinda have a situation here. So I'm a freshman in university and there's this girl, she has a boyfriend, but I have reasons to believe that they don't get along so well. We're fooling around a bit and I can see him being jelly, pressing her for it.

So, any general ideas how to get things going, because I'm relatively new to PUA. Things between us are on the hugs level, but that's because her bf was in the room at the same time.

Think about it if she has a bf and she's fooling around with you. Do you want that type of girl? Personally I don't fuck with taken girls I feel it has no class

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That's stupid.

Some of my best and absolute best relationships had the same exact scenario.

She had a boyfriend , I was being my awesome self , before you know it they're done and we're on.
Those girls were some of the most amazing people I've ever met , quality-wise.

Anyway , OP , what's worked out best for me is simply having fun with them. Just enjoy the time you spend together and treat her exactly like you would treat a single girl. Entirely ignore that she's got a boyfriend and never EVER are you to talk about their relationship.EVER.

Even if she's bringing him down , saying that he sucks ,hates him , I don't care. You will shutdown every single attempt of that kind of conversation.

Also might be a good idea to avoid being around her when she's with him. It's not a dealbreaker but it's a double edged blade.
If he's somewhat alpha he'll deal with it easily and might even shut you down. If he seems the beta type ,he might have some jealousy freak outs with her in private and that will only push her away from him and towards you.

Your call.

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Don't think about her boyfriend, ignore him when he's there. But don't make it obvious that you're ignoring him, if he talks to you, reply with one or two words.

If you notice he's being jealous, that's good. Just do your thing and escalate when he's not there.

Boyfriend destroyer tactic might be useful in this situation
I would recommend finding out a new gorgeous single HB, but if you want that chick, that's what you should go for.

Boyfriend destroyer is basically an antithesis of what guys do to taken HBs.
AFCs will try to convince(with logic - which is a big nono) the HB why she SHOULD NOT stay with her bf.

But, with BF destroyer tactic, you will be constantly complimenting the BF, in an exaggerated way, but also not in an obvious way.
Then, she will
- deny those qualities you've complimented
- tell you about 'bad' attributes her bf has

and you plough through

I've read an article regarding this a long ago, so I can't remember everything right, so excuse me on that part.
You should definitely search up bf destroyer tactics!

Hey, thank you all for the quick replies, I am really new to this. First of all, I should have given more details about it, so here they come:

I am not usually the guy who would go hitting a taken girl, but I got this feeling when I saw them both and it seemed to me that she was feeling kind of down with him. I will observe more, though, as I find it asshole-ish to take a girl from a guy, if she is happy with her current relationship. Also, they have been together for less than a month so I believe it's not that serious.

So, now, how I got the impressions. We're at a birthday and she's opposite to me, her BF somewhere around me. I got close to her to talk to a mutual friend and so we also got to talk for a few minutes before I got up and wandered around a bit. When I later came back I saw her sitting alone on the bed, while the others were scattered around the room. I was close to her BF, when she called me and said "why'd you leave me alone??" (I consider this a subtle IOI, and have certain doubts that it could be an attempt to arouse jealosy in him, not sure)

In reply I sat next to her and gave her a hug around the shoulder, to which she replied with placing her head on my shoulder(another IOI) we talked a bit and I told her that I had brought some homemade desserts and I'll give her some. She wanted us to go get them right away(I know how it sounds), so we were going to go out when the BF got in front of us at the door asking where we were going, obviously insecure. She told him exacly where we were going and we went. So we got the desserts and sat on the stairs between the floors eating and chatting about stuff, I made her laugh a few times, but didn't elevate the things ( yeah I know, stupid, kind of)

So we got back to the party a few minutes later and she sat next to her BF and I screwed around a bit when I noticed that he was into her and she was almost pulling back. They talked about sth that happened the previous day or so, didn't catch it, not into eavesdropping too, but I couldn't help but overhear that she told him "ok, stop it, enough about this" a few times, and it was obvious she wasn't happy with him talking about that subject. After that I left the party because it was getting late and I had to get up early.

Next few days we texted a bit and today she told me that she had some homemade desserts to give to me too. I told her to come down to my place, because I had an arrangement to go out 15 minutes later but she said she was doing her math homework and couldn't. We had some meaningless chat and jokes and I told her I'd be going out. She replied "text me when you get back", which I consider to be a not so bad ending of the discussion, but now she's offline so here's where we stand, generally.

Some more professional analysis of the situation would be appreciated, as well as ideas for future moves. Meanwhile, I'll find the time to learn sth about the BF destroyer tactics mentioned above and observe their relationship a bit better to cosider if making a move would be appropriate.

Thanks, dude, seems legit, what you write about the BFD tactics, I'll definitey check it out. And yeah I'd go into singles, but she's kind of cute and wouldn't want to miss that too

Yeah mate, at the end of the day, it's all about going after what you want;)
good luck

Heya, also how would you rate the text convo? Here it is.

hb: hey, kid, how are you doing ("kid" is a joke because I started calling her the little one, when in fact her b-day is before mine)
me: well, tough (because i was up to my ears in homework)
hb: hmm, I brought sth to sweeten your life
me: ooh, and what's s that
hb: you'll see
me: when's that?
hb:well I'm trying to do my homework, so when I'm done
me: well, unless you're very fast, I'd suggest you come by now, because I'm going out in 15 mins
hb: ow, so when are you coming back?
me: don't know, perhaps late. your laziness speaking right now?
hb: well I just warmed up with the math
me: so it's true that math leaves people hungry (reference to a joke implying that mathematicians don't make good money)
hb: haha, come over if you aren't feeling lazy (could have went, but I'm pretty sure her roommate is there, and I'd feel awkward, while my room was free)
me: so I'd be lazy for not wanting to climb stairs while you have to go down? btw, do you know the difference between a math professor and a large pizza? (the joke I referred to earlier, e.g. a large pizza can feed a family of 4)
hb: nope, what is it?
me: I could tell you, if you overcame your laziness...
hb: well, it's not laziness, it's math
me: well, apparently you haven't heard that math is the lazy science, why bother with it so much?
hb: I've got a hw for tomorrow..

(at this point I had to go out in about 5 mins, so it was meaningless to meet)

me: fine then, gotta go out now
hb: weren't you coming by?
me: nah, I have to go now. gl with your math
hb: alright, text me when you get back, if I'm not sleeping
me: if I overcome being so neglected by you...
hb: oh, well have fun
me: yeah, u too
hb: thanks, but it's not gonna be fun...
me: oh,well.. you'll pull through
hb: hope so

(after I came back)

me: so did you make it out alive?

(and no reply, as I believe she fell asleep, because it was late)

Criticism is welcome, thank you!

It's good to see you can bring the past memory(good emotion you shared with her before) back into the conversation through bringing up the jokes you made before) seems pretty good

And another question, should I text her first now, or wait for her to text, because she's online and things are kind of hanging. She told me to text her when I come back yesterday, so I did, but she wasn't there.

I'd go for waiting, in order not to seem needy, what would you guys advise me to do?

I had the same problem mate, but most of the time, girls won't initiate the chat first:)
Once she initiated the chat first because I've been freezing her out(not talking to her for certain period of time to give her a tiny emotional "punch"), but most of the time she wouldn't.
Most of the time, I was amazed by how quickly she replied back with lots of IOIs when I initiated first. Maybe she's expecting and waiting behind her monitor for you to talk to her - try it)
But, keep in mind that you will have to use occasionally push&pulls or freeze-outs to convey that she should not take you for granted so that she will invest into you more.
Hope it helped!

Well, yeah, she actually texted me a few minutes later to go to her place. She had a couple of friends though so it was kind of awkward to make a move. I still notice some small IOIs, I think, not really sure about the relationship between the two of them, but she doesn't mention the guy, but then again they are not really spreading the news yet.

Otherwise, yeah, I know about the ups and downs in giving attention, and I think I'm gonna try drawing back a bit now, see how things roll out and make some conclusions.

edit:
any opinion on using "the cube" in such situation? I think it would be interesting and could add some twist on the BF part.

- give IOI for IOI, IOD for IOD
- whenever you give an IOI, give a IOD calibrator

These are rules I follow most of the time, and I'm having quite a result from it.
Yes, you have to pull yourself back time to time during the text game, but I would only use if when you FEEL that she is losing interest. For example this happened just about 2 hours ago with the girl

She kept replying with
Oh. Ok:)
Oh. Great:)
That's cool

So I just froze her out for about an hour
And she initiated the text with great IOIs..
-sending a Youtube video of "Elvis Presley - Love me tender"
-"Hiii, I miss you already" (she went back to St Petersberg, Russia)
- Talk to mee
and more..

yep, I agree on you pulling yourself back time to time, it's a great push pull!