Hey gents, I would appreciate some advice. I hit on a pretty hot girl online and here is conversation:

Me: Nurse and a Fighter pilot?
I am not sure that combination is good for global warming

Her: haha I haven't had the best luck with military

Me: Yeah I hate when bad military guys, give us good military guys a bad rep. Just curious, where they enlisted or just up
to good for nothing bad guy officers?

Her: No good enlisted navy

Me: Ahhh yeah that makes a lot of sense now. The way I see it, you should have dated a prisoner instead, they would be
more trustworthy I am in the Air force we are the gentler kinder type of military. On top of that I am 100% honest,
which I can't say for all my brothers in arms.


***** my name is ***** one of the most handsome, fun loving guys on Match. Nice to meet you!

Her: Nice to meet you

Me: well since you don't want to date me, wanna be friends. I make a good friend, I m such a good listener

Her: haha sure

Me: Yesss! God I love Match not only can I get dates but also meet awesome friends like you ****** now if they can
only figure out a way that I can order my groceries online it would be amazeballs. So do you want to stay here after
nursing school?


So anyways that whole conversation happened in one afternoon and I was really hoping to get beyond her shield she was putting up and get a conversation started.

I would appreciate any advice in how you would have done things differently since I feel like, my game is not strong enough with online dating to score the 8-10s on the dating sites. I've been with a few 5-7 range girls.

PS I have no hate for the Navy it was just a way to set up a joke and raise my branch in her eyes.

Thank you very much for advice!

She opened the 'not interested' door and you strolled right through.

She wasn't responding to you well so try being bold, or even better, shorten the messages and back up on the smileys. that would've been fine. You don't want to invest more than she is unless she's invested a nice amount previously.

Oh and DO NOT disqualify yourself. Suggest just being friends but do not disqualify yourself to her and then suggest being friends.

Z thanks for the reply, but I gotta ask you a couple follow on questions from your response.

First, when you say she opened the "not interested" door and I strolled right in, do you mean I should have just quit when she said that or gamed her in another way?

How would I've been more bold? I can understand to do less smileys, and I can also understand shortening the message.

The last statement was more of a push and pull that I was trying to achieve, she found my comments funny or in some way entertaining since she laughed, and I wanted to test if she really was interested by suggesting the friendship card. Obviously there was no attraction from her after all my attempts, so I guess I am trying to figure out other than those things you discussed if there is anything else I could have said to build that attraction or even to keep the conversation going?

By the way is there anyone left on this forum, I feel like many posts go without an answer?

She gave you 3 word answers from the start and from my perspective never showed any interest at all.

She had all the conversational skills of a dead fish. You can't do much with one of these... maybe she didn't like the look of you, maybe she was talking to 5 other dudes at the same time. Who knows.

Move on when you get the non-responsives, unless you really feel you can flip them.

I've gotten numbers from women only to find out they have the conversational skills of a dead fish; numbers from chicks who offered their up, and/or who texted me first after I gave them mine. Some women just don't know how to have a good conversation, which is why it's important to get them out in person ASAP so you can communicate beyond spoken words. I believe chicks like this come with a "expiration timer;" get them out FAST, or else the whole encounter will fizzle.

I TELL women in my opening e-mail that I'm NOT interested in swapping 132 e-mails back and forth, nor in being their text buddy; this allows me to get their number quick, and get a meeting setup as they know I'm not trying to play grab-ass over a keyboard.

Yeah great points. For some reason online dating can be tough because you never know what the issue is. I think I bring out descent openers, that are funny, interesting and should get a response from a girl that is interested but at the end of the day I think women are pretty shallow like guys and they go off of looks. I live in Boise and I have a ethnic Eastern European look and not a lot of girls in this area like that. Most girls here are the Mormon white bleached variety and want the same in their mate. I am also in the military and that might scare a lot of them off. I haven't really experienced with omitting that from my profile but I don't feel like I should lie about such a big part of my life. Anyways, that conversation stopped with her dead fish lack of conversation (good example by the way)

Seems like a shitty opener. Also, you didn't really say much about why you are a good military guy, as opposed to a bad one.

Weird, I am pretty sure I said:

I am in the Air force we are the gentler kinder type of military. On top of that I am 100% honest,
which I can't say for all my brothers in arms.

Shitty or not, she was not interested or had conversation skills of a Mime

Ok, so you didn't mention your tenure in the Airman's Council or your next Honor Guard practice or your Airman of the Month award, or how the chief had you accompany him to give a tour to some VIPs, or how you sometimes feel overwhelmed with all the responsibility your Master Sergeant keeps giving you, etc. - instead, you discussed how your branch is better than your rivals, which is non-alpha and not interesting. Also, she's probably dated shitty Air Force guys before.

Way too long.. once she responds, just get right into finding out her schedule and getting her number/suggesting meeting up.

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x100; sometimes I put my number IN the initial message. If not, then it's not more than a couple back and forth before I either give mine or ask for theirs.

Like people have previously said: if the girl is even REMOTELY attractive you can be SURE her inbox is getting FLOODED with messages from every guy on that site; you simply don't have time to play grab-ass over e-mail with them.

Frankly JJoj you didn't give any advice in your initial post, just used the opportunity to put another member down. Save your useless banter for someone else but I asked for advice and other members provided it without being fucktards. I have a thick skin but I don't have patience for idiots trolling here for a opportunity to be condescending.

Either you read a wikipedia article on AF or spoke with a friend but a Fighter pilot does not work for a Master Sergeant nor do I have time to join Airman's council. Next time pay attention if you want to be useful.

Fury I guess I can try to be little bit more aggressive, but I feel like if I don't build up attraction she will ignore me but just few replies sooner. Have you tried both and what results have you had?

Badboy I'll try that as well but again if you put yourself in the girls perspective. She has 69 people that have emailed her and off the bat she gets rid of all the dudes she doesn't find attractive from their pictures, then she goes to another disqualifer their profile and what they say in it, the last after the two hurdles are passed she then perhaps wants to know if the profile is real or if I just had someone else write it for me. Conversation either through text/email is a good sign of that. Just my thoughts but I could be wrong.

Hey man, I suggested actually displaying value and not displaying liabilities like your shithead attitude. How many times have you been reprimanded, anyway?

Hey, guys, friends become your meal up pastime time.