I've been experimenting for the last few weeks and my results are quite interesting. I used to read their profile and write a sincere/sweet e-mail, and 95%ish of the time, I got no response. I then decided to be more bold and kind of cocky, and my response rate jumped to like 40-50%; example:

"I'm not interesting is swapping 143 e-mails back and forth, being your text buddy, and nor do I rely on *insert name of site here* to get laid. *insert banter*...".

I even used the above one to someone I sent a sincere e-mail to, and even though she ignored the sincere e-mail, she responded to this one as "being impressed;" and we started texting. She ended up not being a good conversationalist, but that's besides the point.

It doesn't matter what they say in their profile; it even seems to work BETTER on women who say they want to meet a "sweet" guy and what-not (you know those profiles). I've also used this in person (obviously) and found that women tend to respond better to just being "direct" rather then trying to be cute, and play "coy."

There's this girl who works at my gym (it's a SMALL gym) who is really cute; I decided to write her a note rather than risk embarrassing her by (obviously) approaching her in front of everyone while she was working (she ended up telling me she liked it b/c she got embarrassed before when another guy just approached); I put in the note I thought she was cute, I wanted to hangout out, and gave her my number. 3 days later she texted; and even though she said she was seeing someone, she also said she liked the note, and thanked me for being "sensitive" to her working environment.

Either they like the "direct" approach because it's different than they're used to (especially online), or they like it because it shows balls; I'm not too sure, but the results don't lie.

Just thought this was kind of interesting. lol

Interesting. I'll give that a try.
In my experience, openers don't really matter that much. Except the usual "hi baby", you can pretty much say anything and on average it makes little difference. I used to have a canned but long witty cute opener, then I switched to more tailored openers based on profiles (hey, I saw *** on your profile, I like **** as well as ***, that shit), and now I am back to a canned one-phrase opener.
I'll give your scheme a try and see if that makes any difference.

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I used to make my openers solely based on their profile, like I would actually take the time to tailor them to them to make it as personal as possible; I'd get maybe one reply out of 10 (probably one out of 15). I never understood it, especially when you read in their profile that they want a sweet, loving, bla bla bla kind of guy. Then I started to think; the ones that actually read them messages are probably getting the same type of messages over and over again; so I figured what did I have to lose to change it up a little bit?

I started to put myself in their shoes; how to I "feel" when someone sends ME that same time of nice, boring e-mail? Do those kind make ME want to respond? No, they don't; they bore me. For some reason I think those e-mail come off as trying too hard because their afraid to get edgy for fear I won't like them. I kind of like girls who don't "need" anything and who don't care; which is also my downfall. lol

I've tested out both bold and sincere separately and I came down to bold gets better results.

Long tailored sincere messages seem to get screened out or get a 'aww thanks' but nowhere after.
Bold gets mixed messages. So bold seems to get better results as they give openings to other conversation styles although with boldness comes the chance of her being put off at first, if I can tell you anything it's that if you're at least alright with handling the pressure, keeping your frame, and holding a decent conversation then none of it is a definite decline unless she is extremely upset by the message.

But actually canned openers aren't bad. I tend to message some girls with just a "Hey, What's up (;/(:/[:" (depending on their profile/pics) and go on from there. It's all about conversation flow.

Just checking back in; I've been continuing this, and have been continuing to get pretty good results. I don't get 100% response rate but if I had to estimate I'd say ~40% - ~50% depending on the site. POF doesn't tell me if/when they read my message (so Idk if they even got it), and I'm not doing too bad on Match. Here is my take on what I think is going on:

I think it's more about how I'm saying things, than actually what I'm saying; within reason, as long as I come off confident and direct, I get a pretty favorable responses. The responses I do get say that they love it, they're impressed, it's the best message they've gotten, thank you for being real and not fake, etc. I think the issue is so many guys try to kiss the woman's ass online, that they women get bored (or maybe even offended). Guys are too scared to offend them, and they try to play the nice guy card by writing a sincere e-mail in hopes of coming off, idk, sincere. Well I finally realized that if coming off sincere doesn't work in person, it ain't going to work online.

I think it's the shock value of a guy telling THEM what he wants, doesn't want, etc. rather than the guy asking what SHE wants and trying to conform to her.

worry about profile and not opener so much. Profile is the driver of success online, not the first message you send.

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Oh I know that, and I did; I even invested the $40 to have Match.com rewrite my profile. I'm just saying that I've been getting more responses by being direct, then by by trying to be sweet and play grab-ass over e-mail.

It depends on the site though too as I tend to get a better response rate on Match than I do on POF. POF has more
"sultry" women, while Match seems to have more "reserved." I've even seen instances where the SAME woman has a DIFFERENT kind of profile between the two. For POF I tend to take this up a notch and really go for it. haha

True. I have noticed the same between POF and OkCupid. If you go on Skout, it goes even more downhill quality-wise, but your directness might work wonders

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Skout/Tinder I give absolutely zero fucks; those sites are just for fun. I wrote one girl on Tinder, "What would you say if I told you I wanted to pull your panties off with my teeth and lick you for hours?" thinking it was a fake profile; well it wasn't. haha. I was actually able to salvage the convo for a little bit but she ended up being a flake (shocker, I know). Skout/Tinder you have to just go for it. haha

I've been talking to this one girl on Match who would only respond to me once a day; she would read my messages, but wouldn't always get back to me; she offer an unsolicited apology saying she gets bombarded with e-mails, and needs to take a break sometimes. I made a joke of it and said; "Ok RIGHT NOW, give me your phone number so we can talk without you getting bombarded on here. I promise to only text you 20x in a row." She responded laughing, and with her number.

I am trying a variation of this on Skout. I open with a one-line bait, and if they fall for it, I deliver your line as a follow-up.

One chick said she was not down for phone sex/sex talk and I told her neither am I, I want the real thing, we should meet up
Two reacted badly

I will try a couple more chicks and then call it quits for this experiment

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Being direct but playful is the key

One i use that works and f-closed off "boom boom you knock me out girl"

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Yes the profile is important but some openers DEFINITELY work bwtter than others. Some chick will reply to messages withput even looking at your profile, only checking it out once you've warmed em a bit.

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absolutely agreed; however, most peoples problem w/online dating is their profile, not their first message.

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