And about 5 minutes after posting that, she called me. She just wanted to see how I was doing... ext. I said that she can't call me every time she's missing me or feeling sad. I told her that that's not fair to me, and that if she really can't go without contacting me, she should recognize that she truly does want to be a part of my life and drop the nonsense. I then told her I was trying get ready to head over to hang out with some friends and that I couldn't really talk. We wished one-another a lovely evening and I hung up. As long as I'm there for her, she doesn't have to be without me. If she's not without me, she won't see really how much she wants to be with me.

I think I'm doing it right.

As I said before, you're coming from the wrong place. I feel for you as you must be hurting but your mindset will eventually kill things. You'd "go to the ends of the earth for her"?? Would she? It sounds nice and poetic to think like that, but if she is woman I can guarantee that she doesn't want a guy who is into her that much. No woman wants a guy who if she leaves he's crying. She may say that it's nice and she likes it, but on a primal level her attraction for you is going to drop. I guarantee she will hit you with "I love you but this doesn't feel the same."

I can tell you the numerous girls I've been with who I met and they told me about the great guy they just stopped talking to for a while, how they had only 2-3 sexual partners, have to be in love to have sex and how the last guy they dated was so sweet and she missed up. Few hours later, we're fucking and in bed they say "This must be special because I won't have done this." Then the guy who was waiting for her to come back is labelled by her as creepy, clingy and desperate by her. Women follow their emotions, and I won't go crying to one after 2 months.

If you believe your life will not be the same without her and all this stuff, she will feel this from you. No woman, wants to be with someone who if they leave things will crumble. It may be sweet when Ryan Gosling does it in movies and you may get her back tomorrow, but unless you get in your head solidly that there will always be more fish in the sea, you will lose her again. Attachment leads to neediness.

So the saga continues. I'm sure you guys are going to start getting tired of reading this train wreck. But it something very important to me. I've never tried to get a girl back before either, which makes me feel like I have no clue what I'm doing.

This was a post I made to Facebook today. And subsequently her replies.

Status: You can't run from your troubles forever.

-Amanda: Don't make me Facebook fight you.

-Brantley: Psh. Last time we wrestled, I won.

-Amanda: True. But in a duel using only words I think we both know I would win!

-Brantley: You think so? I can be pretty punctual and witty on paper, I've made you cry (tears of joy) with my words before.

But what is it you always tell me? "I'm always right"... yeah, okay, you win. :white flag:

-Amanda: Bitchen. Best fight ever.

-Brantley: We suck at fighting, you know that?

-Amanda: Are you kidding me, I can't get mad at that face!

-Brantley: Lesbihonest. That's how it happens when one is so divine... not to toot my own horn or anything. :shit eating grin:

-Amanda: You eat shit while you grin? No wonder you brush your teeth a million times a day.

-Brantley: Nice try, but it didn't seem to keep your tongue out of my mouth. Hahaha.

-Amanda: ZING!! You won this round, Brantley.


Not sure how that went... but what's funny is she's never been very active on FB. The last few days I've noticed she's been liking all my posts and this is one of the few times I've seen her ever actually commented on anything, Much less one of my statuses. I think she's done that two other times. Never has she carried on a playful retort.

Also, I have a date with a HB9 (not nearly as hot as Amanda, but still really fit and probably one of the hottest girls in my gym) on Friday. It's nothing serious. She's just a girl I climb with. Last night I asked her to be my date for this get together some friends and I are having at a local Pub. Should I keep that information to myself, or maybe tag her with me when we go out? Amanda isn't the type to get jealous and although she knows about my past as a man whore, she isn't exactly fond of it. I just think that maybe if she sees me "moving on" she may try a little harder to get me back. I will also say that if I end up dating this chick on a regular basis that it will get back to Amanda. She runs around in the same social circle of rock climbers due to her roommate.

HAHA best turn around in a thread in a long time... As a learning experience, I feel you came on too strong for the place both of you were in. This isnt healthy for both of you. I get it, I know that every seven year woman that just clicks. The issue is you. You came on so strong that you ruined what might of turned out special. You should have played like you knew she was the one but gave her the space. Date other women and let her see you doing it. Someday it might work out....or it wont. Not being a dick man, Trust Me, Ive been there, but she sounds like a fricking head case!

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"Every woman's a whore in the right situation"
"They're all selling it for something"
"She's sluttier than you think she is"

Well I just got home from her house. Last night started rough. Girl I was planning to go out with flaked so I headed out with some friends instead. Wound up getting a text from Amanda about how much she missed me and wanted to see me. So, I invited her out the the bar I was at. After a few drinks we went back to her place, fooled around, but no sex. She did get a face full of spunk, though . I played it cool. Told her about all the fun I'd been having hanging with my friends (not a lie, I've been doing a lot to try and keep her off my mind). Left all the mushy feelings crap out of the conversation. Then, this morning we laid around and talked for like 4 hours and finally I told her I had to go because I had plans today. Made sure to do it just as she sat down to snuggle up to me on the couch. Left there by saying "see you around" and a kiss. I think I'm still in the game here. She seems pretty caught up on me.

well, best of luck with it in anyways hope it works out.
im not reading PUA so i can pop & drop loads of broads but rather increase the chances of getting & retaining the one i want, so in a way i appreciate your plight.

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I have a theory of what is going on here. Blondes that look like Maxum magazine models are interested in money. You say you are self-employed. But what does that mean in her eyes? Is she satisfied with your earning and spending power? Let's suppose you build hot-rod drag racing cars. Does that mean some months you don't do well and some months you do good? How good is good? Is your work more important in her eyes to you than her? Does she see you as a guy who can turn your business in to something that can support her the way she wants and allocate enough time to her? Being self-employed these days is a pandoras box of questions to some woman her caliber. As a young guy who seems to not have a ton of experience with women, you would have a hard time realizing if she was interested your money or not. I can promise to some degree she is or you wouldn't be at this bizarre point you are. Also there is no logical reason for a woman who's had 2 other relationships at 27 to save herself for marriage. Preachers daughters don't even do that.

11's have an artificial price tag. Her ex didn't drive her in to seclusion. She's probably tired of walking out of the house and being an instant rock star. Society has made any pretty blonde in this world the equivalent of a famous rock star every where they go. But they did nothing to get to that point other than maybe routine hygiene. I never think of them as famous rock stars like 99% of other men do which always gives me an advantage. They are just people. when you elevate one girl in your mind over others b/c of her appearance you're going in a bad direction.

Unfortunately we live in a society where great looking women don't want to settle down. The entertainment/internet age/friends they talk to has done a ton of damage to how they see life. At early 20's today, a hot blond thinks she's getting Brad Pitt with Bill Gates bank and the personality of her dreams, all she has to do is step out of the house tomorrow and he'll be walking down the street. Sometimes they think like that at 30. By mid40's they've lived fairly lonely miserable lives b/c their hopes were too high and they burnt the last 20 years of their lives lonely. Expectations tend to go down for a lot of them as they get experience and their looks deteriorate.

Hang in there. This is most likely not the girl for you no matter her motives. But she's going to continue to do this stuff and she won't ever be happy. Certainly I would start ignoring her messages in hopes you can win her back that way. Women do tend to want what they can't have.

Hey, Wingintyme, you actually know me... It's not hot-rods, but Rock Crawlers . I do very well for myself. And I've had my fair share of experience with women. I know the type you're describing... I married one once. But money is not at all a driving factor for this girl. She's one who wont let me pay for dates. She has a great job at an architectural firm. She is very savvy. She drives a nice paid for car, is debt free, buys things on craigslist, thrift stores and auctions. Her dream in life is to start a home for troubled teens. She volunteers with kids from broken homes, holds a bible study in her house every week, lives a wholesome lifestyle and is very selfless. I know how most (99%) of the women in her looks department are. But she really is a rarity. Money means nothing to her. Honestly.

I know who you are. Your name popped up on the Arkansas page.

You pose a situation here that no one really can help you with b/c we don't know the details of all the times you were allegedly together. One theory I feel strongly about is that when someone thinks of long term emotional and marital commitment, the other person's financial situation is involved. And it can be a quagmire of shit right now. If I told you this girl has 100k of debt and close to bankruptcy, or shes got 100k in the bank with no debt would that make a difference to you before you wanted to marry her?

Don't think it's money related from all Brantley's said about this girl. Just sounds like she falls in love deeply and wants to be single after coming out of a relationship and doesn't want to rush into something. This kinda thing rarely works out and I've dated and known girls in the same situation. You guys met when she wasn't ready to meet someone and even if she runs back to you it will bite you later on.

Think of it this way. Let's say you're a lawyer but have gotten the passion to move to L.A to pursue a music career. It's nagging you. Right when you are about to leave and pack everything up, you meet a great girl. Things are great. But the nagging feeling to do music in L.A. is still there. You stop seeing her but you miss her so much you eventually go back to her and give up on music. Six months later, things are great but you still feel like you should have tried music. Eventually you break up. This is what I'm saying; she's not ready and the timing is off. She may miss you and come back to you, but she wouldnt have gotten the time to be single that she needs. Taking her back a couple weeks later when she's missing you may lead to a great rs for a while but she has not fully healed from her past relationship. Give her the space not because she wants it but because she needs it and if you 2 get together let it be because she was ready and not because she was afraid of losing you or missing you.

Your analogy has quite a few holes in it, but I smell what you're steppin' in. I know she needs time. I'm not contacting her. She's the one who's been contacting me. If she wants to hang out, I'll see her. But I'm not getting into a relationship with her until she's completely moved on and has put the past to rest. I have already chalked her up as a past relationship at this point. If I get to spend time with her here and here. That's great. If I never see her again, well, she still has may toiletries there to remember me by. .

I bet she is Southern Baptist.......did I nail it?

Not at all. Hahaha. She's a So Cal girl. She's not really any particular denomination. Nor is she one of those over bearing bible thumpers. I didn't know she was even religious for a few day. When she told me she was getting ready for Bible study, I was shocked.

On a side note, have u ever wheeled Superlift?

Um, yeah, I am a sponsor of the park. I've even cut and named a few trails.