A girl i met in town, and semi closed (i didnt fuck her but done other shit with) texted me this after i went no contact for 4 days: "Heeey whats up? You should be my Gym buddy from next week haha"

shes never flaked on me but seems busy so we can never hang after that night. she always responds to my texts tho. she been sick and had relatives to come visit so that kept us from hanging out. i though she had Buyers remorse, but she still seems to talk to me so hopefully there still is some hope.


my friend jokingly said to txt her : "I'd rather be your fuck buddy but I guess we can be both"

this i think is too forward and she seems like a good girl because she had tonnes of LMR on our first night in bed. then in saying that i may have come acoross as a pussy because i hardly say sexual things to her.

whats a good response to this?

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your friend actually gave you good advice.

Currently she seems to be keeping you around to either convince her of your value and thus she can be attracted or wants to friendzone you, either way she has lukewarm interest, which isn't bad. You need to increase her attraction by showing value, you are not going to do that by playing it safe and engaging in casual chit chat, or being her gym buddy or being her texttual rapport friend. The fact that she is asking you to be "her gym buddy" clearly shows you have no where near the level of compliance you will need to f-close her.

I send these type of "get blown or get blown out " type of texts all the time to lukewarm prospects. They usually act like they are offended but as long as i'm consistent and congruent in holding my frame it often works

i see what you mean. i would have no trouble sending that to a girl i've fucked. shes a good girl. i have always lived under the belief that sexual sexual initiations meant to be done in person. Not txted or talked about, thats tacky

so is it wise to text something like this even if we haven't banged yet?

Is there a subtle way of saying this like, "ill be her source of cardio"

or . I'd rather be your fuck buddy but I guess you can't have your cake and eat it too.

Then if she gets weird just say "it's all good, cake has the wrong type of calories for me anyway.

Btw, i got this text from her around 11, two nights ago. i haven't replied yet

whats a surefire text in a situation like this?

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I think all those texts are ok, you need to initiate the sexual frame, especially considering your history with her. Also forget this good girl nonsense. If you try to take a step back from your previous encounter its gonna come off as pusillanimous and beta. I have a feeling your friend gets laid a lot.

There is no "surefire" text unless its safe which is "surefire" unhelpful. Two days is long enough to wait in a situation like this, maybe too long. If she responds to the sexual text then give her a few more less explicit jabs and teases then back off. Girls love this push pull.

Remember she is gonna shit test you if she is interested after that text, take that as a good sign and hold your frame

sounds good. none of this weaksause shit.

how does this text sound?

I'll your gym buddy/personal trainer for sure. First session free just meet me in my room after and wear something sexy

or hey! yeap. we can do cardio on my bed after i train after 6

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naw too much, less is more with texting. You dont want to hedge your bet with a extended response it seems too try hard

I like your friends response or "even if we haven't banged yet?"

In no way would I assent to training with her at the gym pre-sex, that seems like settling for a shitty option


remeber the real flirting starts AFTER the sexual text if shes in play

DOH! already sent that haha. yeah thats what i was thinking too. tbh gymming with her before fucking would be a major cock-block. Esp at my gym, i know just about everyone and just about every guy is a fucking player. last thing i wanna do is try to AMOG punks on my gym training time.

now onto the next. if she doesnt ever reply to this text, then how do you deal with this? with the weekend coming, i know she will be out

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id wait and see, let her come to you at this point. You are right about the AMOG gym thing, you never want to take a girl to a place where you arnt a high status guy in the room.

AMEN brother. its not that they are High status, most tend to be juiced up AFc's that wouldnt have the first clue how to keep cool around girls. unfortunately im friends with a few, so ill be trying to Amog Friends and Acquaintances. much rather a good isolated meetup than testosterone central Gym

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well they have inherent higher status then you in situational context. Muscular guys at gym vs . normal guy even if they are dorks. Teacher vs. students. Bartender vs. bar patron. Situational power is worth minding

let me know if she texts back, see if you can land her

yeah i definitly will man. thanks for giving me a kick up the arse like a few others here. i've blown it with two other girls this months so my instinct kicked into play this safe. if this fucks out, ill go out this weekend and work on other prospects.

she has her best friend up, so no doubt that both will be out this weekend. but i did take my sweet time texting her back and she is probably is giving me the flick if not playing the long game on me. this shit should never be hard

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If you text her saying that you'd rather be her fuck buddy don't be surprised if she never contacts you again. What the fuck is wrong with you guys? Can't you write anything except sexual, smutty, childish, loser crap? If you want to fuck girls go to a prostitute. If you want to get to know them then quit with all the sexual bullshit and get to know them FIRST. It's not some kind of a race. I'm not surprised hardly any of you on here get anywhere with girls because you have no social skills whatsoever. Every godamn girl has heard your crappy lines before. Can't you think of anything respectful to say or does your stupid dick tell you what to say?

Digital spy. you make a good point. but how about you go f***k yourself?


i agree that this girl hadnt texted me back. im almost tempted to text her back saying "Well...that was awkward. Lol"


so anyone other than Digital spy with his/her negative crap can advise if this is a good move or a bad one?

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Don't ever send that message, the one with this is awkward. You will lose your frame like that, dont do it.

Either she wants to wait as long as you to text back, or she is not interested, either is fine because if she is not interested you would be wasting time by playing games, while she is not interested! So forget it, move on, if you see her be polite and friendly but don't give to much attention. If she ever texts back, then you're on and be a confident man.

the thing is she actually is a nice girl. Possibly a Virgin! i could imagine something like this completely throwing her off balance and put her off. by nice i dont mean virgin mary, i've had her on my bed, making out and clothes off. she backed off a little bit after. i jut did my own thing. that text i feel is a little over the top.

whats a good recovery strategy for this? tbh i have a few other girls on the go, and im not even slightly interested in them for relationships. if i was to consider one, it would be her.

and i dont want to write this one off yet. its easy to give up. is it best to text her and talk something random?

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