| So I have been an observer for too long. I have read countless books, articles, forums, watched videos from mystery, style, Lovedrop, Matador, Gambler, Adam Lyons, Ross Jefferies, the list continues.
I'm not terribly unconfident, I am an AFC so there is AA. I am however a performer (not of magic as my name suggests), I play in bands. So I get up in front of rooms and instantly gain social proof, demonstrate higher value, and show I am the leader of men (I'm not the frontman but still). So at gigs women approach me, and I become the loveable loser, or the interviewer. Unattractive girls, and guys come up to pay compliments and show me attention and I never use that for my advantage.
I am not a virgin, I'm only 21, although I've had success in the past..this is Pick Up and I want to play the game, better yet I want to WIN the game.
Any advice on how to start the forums would be helpful, and criticisms and advice are desperately encouraged.
Last saturday after a gig in front of 250 people, I managed to have 4 women approach me. One was a regular who was drunk, but i still gamed her (HB7). Her "pre-selection" brought her friend over to me (HB8), as that happened my mate (singer in band) started talking to the HB7, inadvertent winging (my friends aren't into pick up..yet). I worked them both the same, stood back, they leaned in. I escalated kino, I don't know if they liked it or not though. Will have to calibrate that area. Start talking too much fluff, I crashed and burned because it got boring and in A3 i failed to show my attraction, it was just a cycle of A2. My head was working too much on this one. I think my reflex is to neg as well, I'm a humorous guy..but I'm like Chandler from friends..a bit too much sarcasm at times.
Third girl, barely an HB6. She didn't need me to show attraction, she threw herself at me, which helped when i walked up stairs because I had 3 out of 4 here, social proof, higher value (from playing all night), and pre-selection (very handsy girl, who i was pushing away jokingly). Then I was accosted by drunk guys complimenting me and asking why I didn't play 'horses'. I laughed and was friendly to 4 pretty big guys, leader of men. Then I was left with their female friend the 4th and final of the night, she was no contest because as the guys spoke to me and I amoged each of them, I completely ignored her. Then i gave her some attention. She threw me compliments, leaned in, tried to guess my name, played with my tie. Seems like child's play right? wrong. What i've noticed with gigs is they have such a pumped up view of you when you finish, you need to be so much larger than life otherwise it's very difficult to maintain their interest. I'm capable but not confident or experienced enough to be larger than life with strangers...yet.
I did the ESP game, she loved it. Then she said have you read 'The Game'. ....oh fuck.
I'm very new at this, I've read it twice. No-one ever said what to do when this happens! I did my best to play the fool and when she explained it (she had very limited knowledge which was a relief) I tried to shoot down the concept as much as possible. I think I over-compensated. I isolated her, DHV'ed, gained comfort..but I had skipped telling her I was attracted. It was trudging along, she played with her air, I was surprised how strong my frame was, her foot kept sliding on my leg, but it became much blander as I went on, I should be more aggressive. The time came when she had to leave and I had to find the owner of the club, her friend's came and distracted her. I didn't know what to do, I was sitting there not doing anything and my value was dropping. I told her i had to go and I would like to continue our talk, she looked me straight in the eyes and said 'yes please.' We play there weekly, so I'm hoping to go into C2 next week. I still should have #closed.
Tonight however I am 5 minutes from some bars (as I am house sitting near the city. I'm from Australia). I have spent a week talking myself into heading out to sarge alone. Holy shit I am crapping my pants. I'm still tossing it up. If i grow some balls I will post it on here. I'm going out with 2 routines, with the hopes to approach 6 times.
Thank you for reading. Let me know if my etiquette or lingo isn't right for the forum.
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