Hi all,

I have been doing Game for about three months, and so far, I'm pretty good at opening a set and becoming the life of the party. I've done games, negs, and the girls love me. I've made out and hooked up with girls every now and then, but it's not consistent and right now, I feel my main problem is creating the hook point.

How do I create attraction, conveying beyond just being a social, fun guy? How do I make a girl sexually intrigued in me? Sometimes I feel like I'm almost there, as she starts asking questions about me, but I lose her. Here are some recent examples
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Scenario 1
On Saturday, there this tall girl with her hot, tall volleyball player friends. I opened on this girl at a bar, she leaves with her friends. To not seem like a chode, I open on another set. She comes back every now and then and we have a chat. She leaves every now and then as well. As I'm talking to another set, she taps on my shoulder, and says "my friends and I have to go now, it was nice to meet you."
For this scenario, I felt like I should've gotten a number close and her saying bye was an IOI that I should've made some move. A friend saw me doing nothing and said to me "dude, you froze up. She was definitely interested and you didn't make a move."

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Scenario 2
Another scenario happened Sunday, I was talking to this hot blonde girl and her Asian friend. I opened "what drink are you drinking." Moscow Mules. I neg them for their choice of drinking vodka. I lock myself in. Two guys jump in, possibly their friends. I DHV them, then they left. Turns out the girls didn't know them. I ask how they know each others, they're best friends. I did the best friends test, they love it.
The blonde girl (my target) is on the phone, I neg her about it ("show's over here!"). She says a friend that she was with left and she doesn't know where he is. She goes to the bathroom. I talk to the Asian (obstacle). HBAsian says "she's upset cuz her boyfriend disappeared." Ok... so he's her boyfriend now. HBBlonde comes back, and complains that she doesn't know where her "friend" is. I run the Straw Man Boyfriend Destroyer (although I'm not quite sure if this is a friend or a date). "Hey, maybe something happened to his buddy and he's helping him out." She starts bashing him. So far so good.
Anyways, the "friend" comes back and sits down. She has her hands on his lap, so I guess they are somewhat dating, and I didn't know what to do. Should I have befriended this dude and hopefully get a number? I felt she was interested by the fact she was referring to this guy as a "friend" and that I could've took her away while their relationship was somewhat not written in stone.

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These are my two most recent hook point problems, but I definitely have had them happen before, but when I do hook correctly, I don't think I'm sure what I did right. What are you guys' techniques in creating a hook point?

How did you come up with "hook points" as your sticking point? Just a random guess?

You answered your own question. When a chick like that goes out of her way to say goodbye to you, she wants you to ask for her number.

Your sticking point is not hook points. It's reading between the lines (sub communication)

Forget about all that hook point bollocks. You don't need it, you're doing amazing for someone who been involved 3 months.

ABC (always be closing)

Don't forget your goal. Don't let the set die until you go for some form of close.

The 2 biggest sticking points for a newbie to concentrate on is:

Approaching and pulling the trigger. Every other tactic is just a supplement ontop of those 2 core foundations.

Goodluck and for god sake, avoid the mental masturbation.

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Just because the girl said it was nice talking to you doesn't mean jack shit. She probably ended up in bed with her volleyball team and is a lesbian. As for your other scenario you come across as desperate and to call the Asian girl an 'obstacle' shows that you are a horrible, nasty, little creep. Just because you didn't fancy her doesn't mean she's a fucking obstacle. No wonder you guys can't pull. The way you talk about women in general is fucking offensive.

You're new to this aren't you? an "obstacle" is everybody that's not your target, male or female

Nope. They are only obstacles if they object to you hitting on their friend. Sometimes the friends of your target help and encourage you to hit on their friend.

You should make the distinction between a female friend of your target (obstacle) who doesn't like you and a chode dude who also likes the same girl you do (cock block)

Brain washed by PUA jargon.

God have mercy on his soul.

I bet he calls his friends "wings"

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