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PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:37 pm 
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Men aren't really Men anymore.

Now before everyone gets their panties in a giant knot here, there is nothing wrong with being a ‘true’ Alpha Male.

But fucking good luck trying to find one, because most of the time, if you ‘think’ you are, your likely not.

There was once a time when men used to be real men. When they dressed with style, when they had a certain honor code they followed that involved treating not only their elders and each other with respect, but women alike. Unfortunately, those days are far gone , a thing of the past. What we have now is… to be quite honest, I’m not sure, competitive asshole?

We now live in a society where divorce is at its highest level, and accountability is at its lowest. There are no real Men left for young guys to emulate. They are raised by women and predominantly female daycare workers.

No one has taught the new ones how to become MEN.

There are of course certain men out there who still have their shit together, but we are few in number. What women are most often subject to is the company of boys who are refusing to man up — tools who prefer to play with their dicks and act the part of the perceived Alpha Male than to do their part in society, and walk the earth with this asshole sense of false entitlement. These poor excuses for men have the bodies of adults and the mentalities, as well as the social outlook of prison inmates.

BUT, they seem to get most of the women, why? Exposure, comfort, limited choice. They are just as horny as we are, so they settle.

The remainders of them are so socially inept, that they are absolutely petrified of women, they are needy, they are clingy, they are unable to make confidant decisions and women can smell the on them like a plague.
So they see all these Alpha posers, sucking up all the beautiful women. These wimps are just as hard up and horny as those tools, they feel they should be entitled to their fair share right?

So guess who they start to emulate? That’s right, the Alpha posers, they dress like them, they drink like them, they drive like them, they pay to learn to be like them.

You know how girls always fucking complain about how they want to meet a nice guy instead of the typical Alpha Asshole? Well you know why that shit happens? Because they love REAL men, and are fooled into thinking these Alpha Asshole posers, are REAL Men.

Trouble is Alpha Assholes seem to have trouble sticking around.
Prison, sudden death, OD on Molly/oxy, someone else’s Baby’s Daddy, falling off the boardwalk at Jersey Shore, things like that.

Now I’m NOT saying you need to be an Alpha Asshole to attract women, on the contrary. You need to look at the attributes that attracts women to that type of mind set.

These guys take the short cut. No one takes the time to learn how to be a REAL Man.

Steak vs Chicken or Fish, all these Alpha Assholes all acting the same way, using the same approach, the same hair cut, the SAME!

Women are constantly offered chicken or fish as far as the eye can see, with the chicken seems good they've tried it before, they are used to it, after all the cod fillets are all cowering in the corner, offering no taste at all. Occasionally there is that plain girl with the funky teeth and hairy armpits willing to take a chance on the fish. At least the chicken all has the same spice, all cooked the same way, fried or baked, the big boobs go for the fried, the skinny ones baked, all with the same outcome.

At the end of that giant table, there is one platter of steak, it’s got porter House, it’s got T-bone, and New York Strip, with marinades, spices, some rare and firm, some tender and sweet, all different.
The women are clawing, and climbing over each other just for a taste of that juicy steak.

All the top shelf women are salivating for steak. They miss it, they want it, they NEED it.

Forgive your parents, they did the best they could . . . or they didn't. Either way, you’re a man now so it’s time to move on.

Take the time to become STEAK, take the time to become a RARE real MAN. Learn style, honor, and ethics. Be governed not by the clothes, music, or style you wear, but rather by the state of your mind and the conformity to your own beliefs.

Never be afraid to be loud, be afraid to have no voice. Never be afraid of the thoughts of others, be afraid of not being true to who you are. Your own style makes you who you are; don't adopt someone's you’re not.

Not many others will.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 12:38 am 
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I'm not sure why I suddenly felt hungry reading this post.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 12:44 am 
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Speaking of values and ethics, I would like to quote some of mine. Please feel free to add yours. Who knows? Maybe we can use some of those to make us better men.
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Ah, yes. Morality.

As a seducer, you'll be more successful if you have your value system intact. You just need to define what are those. You'll also need to distinguish between a moral value versus certain judgments with deep rooted psychological dysfunctions that affect how you interact with mainstream society. For instance, the Madonna/Whore complex is a common psychological issue rather than a moral value which affects a lot of newbies in this forum.

An extreme example of a Madonna/Whore complex psychological dysfunction is that of Ed Gein (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Gein) whose mom betatized his alcoholic dad and infused in her children's minds that she was the one and only pure 'Madonna' and all other women were 'whores'.

Another judgment that doesn't sit very well with many PUAs is on inflicting emotional and physical violence on women although it's generally understood that slapping a girl's face with your cock is okay as well as some hair pulling while you're fucking her doggie style, choking her just a little bit as you climax, or gagging her with your cock while she's giving you a blowjob.

Some great values in this PUA community include:
  • 1. Loyalty. We are all very loyal to our fellow womanizing brothers. Bros first before hoes as one poster banners proudly in his signature.

    2. Commitment. We are committed to world peace and seduction. If everybody around the world is fucking instead of fighting, then we would have achieved our goal.

    3. Decency. Generally, we stay clear of social taboos like racism, pedophilia, coprophilia and other unlawful or disgusting sexual practices.

    4. Teamwork. The Chief is our prime evangelist that women are essential members of the team called the human race. Most of us agree with this.

    5. Respect for Women. Ironic, but true. Most of us here love women. We would rather treat them as human beings rather than as sex objects. Women are great, not just for sex, but also for sharing some of the best things in life like good conversations, good food, clean clothes, and spick and span apartments.
Of course, there more great values in here. You'll be introduced to those sooner than later.

As for canned routines, look at conversations both from the verbal and nonverbal aspects. Most nonverbal communication that we do are canned rather than natural. Most men suck both at reading body language and conveying subtle messages through body language. Thus, canning these nonverbal cues facilitates an easy way to learn them and get them ingrained in our system.

Defining and simplifying these nonverbal signs as applied to seduction are some of the great things you'll learn in pickup that you can also apply in your career or day to day life.

When you become good at this, hopefully, you'll help some broken hearted noob or give hope to some hopeless guy sometime in the future when most forum regulars get bored with this stuff and move on to address some other aspects of their lives.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 12:48 am 
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I'm not sure why I suddenly felt hungry reading this post.

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LOL I shouldn't get all anecdotal when I'm starving. I was having the teriyaki hanger steak.
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you'll be more successful if you have your value system intact.
True shit.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 1:00 am 
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I'm not sure why I suddenly felt hungry reading this post.

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LOL I shouldn't get all anecdotal when I'm starving. I was having the teriyaki hanger steak.
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you'll be more successful if you have your value system intact.
True shit.
Damn. I haven't eaten steak for a long while. Now I have to get some when the mall opens at 10:00 which is about one hour from now.

Great thread, btw. It's like one of those classy masterpieces of yours like the one on neediness.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:13 am 
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Is this chicken fried? Fried chicken is delicious!

Anyways. I think youre right on point here. Men have confused alpha qualities with being a tough guy or an asshole. I find it the opposite. Alphas mostly give everyone respect...unless disrespected in a threatening manner. They also dont really worry about being tough. They are not outcome dependent. Last week my GF and I were in Costco and we were checking some hotties. I got caught by a very alpha husband. He paid no attention to it, why? Because he's not threatened by me at all. No need to act like a tough guy. He is secure with his place. I pointed this out to my GF because its so rare to see. True alpha are dying.... Not only are we raised by women but are TV and movies are filled with beta males. Outside of this community I just dont see the role models....

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:10 am 
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Absolutely fantastic ! well written with profound solid content.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 9:26 am 
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There was once a time when men used to be real men. When they dressed with style, when they had a certain honor code they followed that involved treating not only their elders and each other with respect, but women alike. Unfortunately, those days are far gone , a thing of the past. What we have now is… to be quite honest, I’m not sure, competitive asshole?

In 3000 years women have never been so respected by men as they are today.


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We now live in a society where divorce is at its highest level, and accountability is at its lowest. There are no real Men left for young guys to emulate. They are raised by women and predominantly female daycare workers.
According to some research there are so many case of divorces nowadays because of:
Women work now- and do not need a man to survive.

Romantic Comedies- Women watching romantic comedies increased their chances to get divorced, apparently they compare their men against the super cute guy in the movie and come to the conclusion eventually that their man is an asshole and a looser, because is much worse than the guys in the movies.

Trend - if there are people who is already divorced in the neighborhood its easier for everybody else to get divorced too. Apparently is because of the jealousy about the freedom and exaggerated adventures that the single men/women likes to tell. Also it is not longer seen as something bad.

Women getting fat - couples where the women has a better body than the guy tend to last much longer.
Guys stop acting in a romantic way.
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Men aren't really Men anymore.
Men will always be men, but now our competition is much higher. We have to compete against unreal portraits of guys in movies, facebook, internet, 1000s of channels in the tv, sms, smartphone apps designed to captivate the attention of users.
We have to earn more money than our woman in order to be respected, but women demand equal salary between genders.
Women now are raised believing that a successful woman is the one with great career and that the one that the one who nurtures a happy family is a looser.

The expectations that we Men and women are creating right now of our partners are like the pictures of the hamburgers in Mcdonalds or Burger King, they look so fucking great, tasty and big, but once you open the box of your burger you see something completely different. That is just a burger you are hungry at the moment and you eat it. Now imagine it is not something that you can it, but something that you carry around everywhere, and anywhere you see there are these amazing pictures of how things are supposed to be, and then you take a look inside of your box and see this shitty burger, it becomes natural to want to change it.
As PUAs we are trying very hard to look at those Mcdolands pictures, but at the end of the day no matter what we do we can't hide the fact that we are just a normal burger like everybody else. At the end of the day if the woman is hungry will take the one that is more available to her at the moment. And might dump you for other one that is also available and in the distance looks a little bit more like the one in the picture, to later discover that it was just another shitty burger.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 2:50 pm 
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Enough with the food metaphors


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:13 pm 
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Enough with the food metaphors

Hahaha not the best post to read if you are starving :)

Anyways world runner great points man! I think we live in a very different world when things are hyper inflated. We are shown images of perfection and we live in sort of a real life advertisement. We idealize many aspects in our lives so finding whats real within that median is very difficult. I think that on many levels we are civilized, modern human beings that have very caveman instincts and when we go out there to sarge, if we can tap into subconscious of the ladies and turn on the switches that build that attraction then we have it made.


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