So I was at a party the other day with a ton of girls, and I decided to approach what I thought was one of the hotter ones (props to me for overcoming AA). I used an indirect situational opener (although I'll admit, it wasn't a very good one) so that I would just come off as friendly and sociable, and she responded with a sassy "So THAT'S your pickup line?" Apparently, she didn't agree.

I kind of fumbled around with my words and tried to justify my response/opener, but my response wasn't anything an alpha-male would say. The interaction ended awkwardly with her turning back to her group of friends and me turning 90 degrees and talking to some of my friends (neither group of friends witnessed the interaction).

Basically, I was wondering if you guys had any suggestions on how to rebound while still persisting. I personally am one who would rather persist than just insult the girl back (or give up) and walk away.

I was thinking of trying something like: "Okay. So [pretend] you're me. You walk up to you. What would YOU say to you?" This is said in a casual, serious, non-sassy way. Then, she responds with something like: "Try 'Has anyone ever told you you have beautiful eyes.' or 'Well fuck me if your name isn't Jenna.' Anything but [your opener] !" or whatever; who gives a shit what she suggests. To which I'd respond: "Okay [pause]. Let's start over." Make a seductive face/smirk and speak slowly: "So. Has anyone ever told you you have beautiful eyes?" or whatever pickup line she suggested. Back to normal face and say in a normal tone: "Better?" Then she'll hopefully laugh, be disarmed, and I can begin a conversation with her. Maybe say something like "so, let me guess. you get hit on a lot don't you?"

I also read some good responses on "The "F*@k Off" response!" post here (the-f-k-off-response-vt47079.html). My favorites were:
-And here I came to complement you on your shoes.
-Pleasure meeting you too.
-Ya my friend said you looked like a bitch but I bet him you weren't. Now I'm out $20 bucks, but at least I know he knows his shit.

-On a side note, I usually like using casual situational openers, depending on where I am or if the girl is wearing or doing something interesting or noteworthy. But in this particular situation, all the girls were in bikinis (so none of them was really peacocking) and the girl I opened was pretty much just standing around, not giving me much to work with. Any not overly-aggressive suggestions for openers for girls in bikinis that aren't peacocking or doing anything in particular?

It looks like that's the kind of girl that could use a neg (and remember that a neg is not an insult).
I'm thinking something like: "I actually didn't think much about the line. I was testing it cause I wanna talk to that girl (and point some other girl).

If you see that doesn't move to a conversation with her and you still wanna keep trying, say something like: "Any suggestions?"
How about: "how embarrassing!! I was just about to come with that same one!"

Hi!, see i tryed that a tons of times, and some times i hope they do.... i replay to it in this

after the failed opner..

(HB).... So thats your PU-line?...
(Me) Haha... who says is a pickup-line (Then just walk away-confedent)

-If she ain´t pullin you back in her zone, just go open new groups and talk to as much lads. she will notice trust me cus she might find you interresting or a freak so she notice you if you are around and while you are talking to others you higher your profil in her eyes.... she might go get your attention. if she does, when she gives you her opener you just smack her in the face with " Oh so that your pick up line " and give her a cooky or flerty face or just laugh and smile

- if she dont come over.... get eye contact and smile. if she smile back shes in.

well a other sernerio is that. after you sad " haha...who says is a pickup-line?" she might laugh at it and just start the convisation from there.

if your are confident enuff she will and i say again...will chase you...

Hola , over and out ! =)

we don't know what you said or what she said so your post is silly

You have 4 tries to open a girl. If your first attempt fails ... stay until she literally says "Fuck off!" ...
- The 4 times rule is you "plowing" until she says, "Fuck off!" ... But, normally after the 2nd plow ... she will open up.
- The 4 times rule can also be applied to re approaching the girl later on the night!

- Her saying "Is that your pick up line" is a congruence test to see if you are legit. That's the beauty of the 4 times rule ... you plow (aka: being non reactive) through any congruence test she gives you and pass the tests ^_^!
- The trick is not to be reactive to her bitchness and just ignore the question.
- For example: You open.
Girl: "Is that your pick up line?"
You: "Who are you and where are you from." ... In a loud, commanding and challenging tonality.
- You need to make the girl react to you. That's why we ask consecutive questions in a loud, commanding and challenging tonality. Demand that attention! You can neg to get her reaction like what others recommended ... but it is just easier to ignore.
- By you not answering her question makes you non reactive and make her the weird one.
- Lastly, the reason why she gave you a congruence test is because you had a needy tonality (aka a tonality that rises up). Imagine a homeless person asking you for change and the tonality they use. "Please sir, can you spare some change."
- You need a Command and challenging tonality, like what an Police officer would have. The tonality rises down.
- The reason why this is important is because it is human dynamics if you talk to someone with a rising tonality (aka needy) the other person will reply with a command and challenging tonality (tonality drops). For example how you opened that girl ... you probably had a needy tonality opener making the girl command and challenge tonality of "Is that you pick up line?"
- Therefore to avoid this open with a loud, command and challenging tonality, "You! Who are you and where are you from?"
- Don't knock on the door! Break that motherfuckin' door down! If you want to avoid any congruence test at the beginning of the itneraction

*** But of course ... props on approaching! The only way for you to be non reactive is getting used to the punches ^_^! The more you attempt to approach hot girls, immerse in their congruence tests, will fortify your non reactiveness and just persists on through. Consider this as a challenge and funny that she acts like this ^_^! The more you pass congruence tests the more she will trust you and know that you are legit alpha!

Good luck!

Donston

Brad from RSD?

also :
youa re not going to avoid shit testing in any case unless you have social proof

It's a mix of Brad and Alexander's ^_^!

You will gain social proof by being loud, and command and challenging. Since you will be drawing everyones attention to you. But, of course you must be calm and relaxed when this happens. I found you can be calm and relax by NOT noticing everyone watching/listening you approach by FOCUSING everything on holding eye contact with the girl. That's why I recommend loud, command and challenging, and laser eye contact when you approach! Plus it is super simple to do.

Once she sees you are relax and cool under all the social pressure ... you will pass the congruence tests ^_^! Side note ... she sees your icy pimpness through the eye contact! If you have wavering eye contact or if you are trying to think of a come back ... she will see that you are beta.... ewww :p ....

There is a bonus to this ... even though you get rejected ... you give your brain proof that you can "demand attention" and nothing bad will happen to you (other than your pride hurting :p) ... resulting in further un stifling your self. Then you can re approach again using the 4 times rule!

This has a high success rate but when you fail it is super embarrassing ... hahahaha.
"Taking high risk approaches has 90% success rate. But that 10% fail rate is super super embarrassing. People focus on that 10%." - Tyler.

Good luck!

Donston

Ever hear of KISS?

Keep
It
Simple
Stupid

Seriously, you've given too much time and effort to your response. Something like "Put yourself in my shoes" just comes across as needy, pandering and canned(As in you've been sitting on it). It's not very alpha.

She gave you a shit test and you burned hard because you thought about it too much. Even "Yeah, did you like it?" is better than fumbling your words and losing frame. You need to man up, not allow your frame to be shaken and then you'll come out of any of these shit tests ahead of yourself even if you don't give the best of responses.

Yeah, "Did you like it?" isn't the most witty of things to say but it's direct, it's simple and it prompts a response. If she's just not having any of it(Which some women are like!) the worst she'll do is turn around anyway and ignore you. If you deliver that line with confidence and a strong frame she'll be more interested than the perfect response with shaky frame.

Ive gotten things like this before. If I thought it was a good line I would say "YUP. Why you got a better one?" if it wasnt, I'd say "no...I was just trying to make conversation. If you want a pickup line Id say..." and then say your best line.

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Typically if I get that sort of response, I will throw it back in her face, in a challenging, confident manner.

Her: so that's your pickup line?

Me: Yeah, it is. 60% of the time, it works all the time. If you can come up with one better, I'll shitcan mine and use yours. So......whatcha got?

Typically she will get surprised by this, and will have to think for a bit. If she does, that's your chance to walk away, with a slight neg.....apparently you need some time to think about it. You have 10 mintues to come up with something, and it better be good. Then walk away.

If by chance she is quick witted and comes up with something back, you are at that point fully opened and can carry on a conversation, which likely will be easier for you, because she offered something catchy, funny, etc and that should relax you a bit.