Hello everyone its great to have found such an awesome resource to improve my game!

I'm 24 and from Colorado USA. I was a pretty big dork in high school, but by college I became at least proficient at pickup just naturally. I wasn't bagging 10's but i've held my own. I did not however have any real understanding of why some things worked while others didn't.After graduating and a rough breakup I decided to start improving myself before getting back out there. In the past few months I've learned lots about mens fashion and how to do better at internet dating. That when I stumbled upon The Game by Neil Strauss and it really spoke to me. Immediately I decided to dive in head first, so I read the whole thing as well as Mystery's book. Having read about Style and Mystery's start joining a forum seemed imperative.

After the preliminary research I've gone into the field three times in the last two weeks and I would like to improve my game in any way possible. Familiar now with the Mystery Method, Annihilation method, and listening to pickup podcast by the art of charm schools I have learned a ton. I don't like canned openers or stacked routines, I prefer to go in extemporaneously. I have no problem opening, but thats were I lose control of the situation. I find myself just building comfort with possibly a little banter, but thats were I fall apart. I don't know if i'm nervous or what, but find my self without a real plan of where to go. I want to learn how to control the frame after this point and be more conscious IOI's. I would also like to improve my body language as well as my ability to read the girl's body language. Anyways I look forward to learning as much as I can while I'm here!

~Entropy

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~Entropy

Welcome Entropy !

Since as I understood you are stuck on the IOIs and can't really figure out when to kiss or number close with the lady,I'll give you a summary of short tips that you can find all across this site

First of all,when you approach someone,don't instantly raise the alarm that you want to approach her in a sexual manner.Small talk,small talk and small talk.In The Game there is a whole IOI thing in the end of one of the first chapters,but the biggest IOI is this;the girl is still talking to you and she tries to keep the convo going.
Plays with hair,stares in your eyes/lips,has turned her body to face you,seems impressed etc.

If you feel you cant fclose the girl or that is not your aim at the given moment,and you want her phone,just ask for it.In order to make sure she has given you the right phone,read it back to her while changing one of the digits and seeing if she will tell you you did something wrong.(dont get angry if she gave you a fake number,just be polite and close the set).

If you want to kiss close the girl,dont do it in front of her friends,cause even if she likes you,she may feel unconfortable.If you ask her to follow you somewhere and she does,that's an IOI by itself,so kissclosing should be a piece of cake

Hope I helped,I'm here to talk about anything If you need it !

Thanks man! I appreciate the feedback.

What I see as my biggest hurdle right now is the whole kino escalation thing. In the Game, and Mystery's book they talk about constantly escalating the touching and whatnot until you are already so close to kissing that there isn't that awkward moment where you have to "Go for it". I guess I just need to get over my own shyness about touching someone who I don't know very well.

I have the ultimate test tomorrow. Im going to try to take out this gorgeous girl who goes to my NA meeting. We are well into the comfort stage since we share so much in our group. What things should I do to start touching her without it being weird?

~Entropy

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~Entropy

Hey man... My story is just like yours...
Welcome!!!