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A Sticking Point or SP is an issue you CONSISTENTLY run into.

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I keep getting LMR whenever I bring girls back to my place. This has happened at least 10 times already! What am I doing wrong?
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I got LMR with this one girl! What do I do?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 11:02 pm 
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Last night I went out on the town to pick up girls and I crashed and burned horribly. It's not that I was rejected by anyone, it's that I didn't even try. My former fwb also friendzoned me which makes me feel even worse.

For the past year I've been reading up about pick up almost everyday. It's gotten to the point where I already know how I should go about picking up a woman. Find. Meet. Attract. Close. I know dozens of negs, hundreds of openers and everything in between. You name it I've read about it - in depth - already.

I went out on the town last night confident that I would be able to number close at least one girl but my approach anxiety is killing me man. Every time I see a pretty girl and I suddenly get butterflies in my stomach and if by some divine miracle I do actually approach her I end up bumbling through the conversation and all the PU material that I've learned just goes straight out the window.

I'm fine when it comes to warm approaches but for some reason I just can't manage to do cold approaches.
What am I doing wrong?

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:21 am 
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are you out on your own or with a few buddies?

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 4:06 am 
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are you out on your own or with a few buddies?
I usually go out with a few friends. I sometimes go out with one of my PUA friends.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:37 pm 
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Last night I went out on the town to pick up girls and I crashed and burned horribly. It's not that I was rejected by anyone, it's that I didn't even try. My former fwb also friendzoned me which makes me feel even worse.

For the past year I've been reading up about pick up almost everyday. It's gotten to the point where I already know how I should go about picking up a woman. Find. Meet. Attract. Close. I know dozens of negs, hundreds of openers and everything in between. You name it I've read about it - in depth - already.

I went out on the town last night confident that I would be able to number close at least one girl but my approach anxiety is killing me man. Every time I see a pretty girl and I suddenly get butterflies in my stomach and if by some divine miracle I do actually approach her I end up bumbling through the conversation and all the PU material that I've learned just goes straight out the window.

I'm fine when it comes to warm approaches but for some reason I just can't manage to do cold approaches.
What am I doing wrong?
I feel you bro, because you got some experience in pickup stuff, you are giving yourself large expectations, and of course feeling like a failure when you can't meet them. I am running into the same problem recently where I try to do 'perfect' approaches because I know a lot of theory but can't implement them properly.

My advice is to start from zero, rework on the basic stuff and let go of everything you know at the moment. You need solid foundation in order to do more advance techniques. If you have approach anxiety, do the newbie drill by simply walking up to strangers and say hi, don't bother trying to attract. Treat it like a revision course to reconstruct your fundamentals and built confidence. Since you have some successes in the past, starting from zero and work your way up again won't take too long.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:41 pm 
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You need to have a few days of "getting rejected on purpose" missions.

so that you get desensitized to rejection. You simply have not been rejected enough in your life since you care about it too much.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:01 am 
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Last night I went out on the town to pick up girls and I crashed and burned horribly. It's not that I was rejected by anyone, it's that I didn't even try. My former fwb also friendzoned me which makes me feel even worse.

For the past year I've been reading up about pick up almost everyday. It's gotten to the point where I already know how I should go about picking up a woman. Find. Meet. Attract. Close. I know dozens of negs, hundreds of openers and everything in between. You name it I've read about it - in depth - already.

I went out on the town last night confident that I would be able to number close at least one girl but my approach anxiety is killing me man. Every time I see a pretty girl and I suddenly get butterflies in my stomach and if by some divine miracle I do actually approach her I end up bumbling through the conversation and all the PU material that I've learned just goes straight out the window.

I'm fine when it comes to warm approaches but for some reason I just can't manage to do cold approaches.
What am I doing wrong?
I feel you bro, because you got some experience in pickup stuff, you are giving yourself large expectations, and of course feeling like a failure when you can't meet them. I am running into the same problem recently where I try to do 'perfect' approaches because I know a lot of theory but can't implement them properly.

My advice is to start from zero, rework on the basic stuff and let go of everything you know at the moment. You need solid foundation in order to do more advance techniques. If you have approach anxiety, do the newbie drill by simply walking up to strangers and say hi, don't bother trying to attract. Treat it like a revision course to reconstruct your fundamentals and built confidence. Since you have some successes in the past, starting from zero and work your way up again won't take too long.
It's good to know I'm not the only one out there with this problem. I think you're right I'll go out into town sometime and just aim to approach as many people as possible. I just gotta stop working myself up before a set.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:00 pm 
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This is my manta when I am out talking to women. I'm hoping it helps you out a bit as well.
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This is a very simple personal motto that's really helped me stay motivated and power through AA, bad states, poor logistics, rejections, etc. It's a simple way to reframe yourself as a guy who does, rather than a guy who thinks.

GATA is a very simple acronymn that's become my personal creed over the past few months.

GATA="Get After That Ass!!!!!!"

For me, this has been the 3 second rule, "Make the ho say no!," State, subcommunication, alpha-ness, persistence, all of that stuff rolled into one. It teaches you to think on your feet and build confidence within yourself. It harnesses your sexual energy into something productive.

You see a girl you think is cute? GATA!

Approach Anxiety killing you? GATA!

Don't know an opener? GATA!

Unsure what to say next? GATA!

Approach angle sucks? GATA!

Dressed like shit when a HB appears? GATA!

You get shot down by 10 girls? GATA!

Afraid you might show too much interest/neediness? GATA!

Intimidated in any way? GATA!

Nervous about escalating? GATA!

Don't know how to DHV and neg the target while feeling the Nimbus upon you and disarming obstacles while preparing your timebridge to the Day2 sex location? Fuck all that! GATA!

In the end, taking right action and just approaching girls will do more for you than reading (or stressing over) any theory or technical aspect of PU, which IMO only refine that into a more precise skillset in the hands of a seducer who already has this basic stuff handled.

You may think you're an artist, but an artist is someone who creates SOMETHING through ACTION! You've got to take the ACTION to be an artist. You've got to take the ACTION to ACHIEVE ANYTHING! Otherwise you're just a mental masturbator.

When you're out sarging, don't worry about the precise technical stuff in the moment. That will just fuck you up. If you feel any anxiety, any uncertainty, remember to GATA! GATA trumps the negativity and the excuses.

Now go GET AFTER THAT ASS!!!!!!

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:26 pm 
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I feel i'm in the same boat. Started off strong when I got back into PU, got a bunch of numbers, few k-closes and f-close offers. I ended up getting hammered one of the nights and completely ruined my game. The women I was meeting with I ended up sending drunk and needy messages to. Burnt those bridges.

Since then it's been very slow. Hardly done any approaches and find myself with a case of oneitise for the night when I see a girl that interests me. I did do one approach with the intention of failing straight off but it went better than expected.

Gonna follow PEBBLES advice and do a few nights of approaching with intent to fail.


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Everyone has AA, the best PUA in the world has AA, you can't in fact make it disapear, but you can find ways to ignore it, just think of it as a rock in your shoes, you feel it and know it's there, but you keep walking anyways...

In order to help you I'll tell you how I stop being like this:

I really love waterslides and rollercoaster, the more radical, the better, when I'm up there, thoughts like "Oh my god what am I doing here?" bombard my mind, but the time I get on the floor, they change to "Oh my god, I need to do it again!". The adrenaline in your body make you feel this way when you leave a situation of extreme nervousness. Win the AA is the same thing as going down the waterslide, you need to get out of your comfort zone. When I get stuck by AA, I rapdly remember how good that feel is, and it gives me confidence, but it's all a matter of accepting, you HAVE to crash and burn a few times before, that's what divide the people who are trully willing to overcome their dificulties.

Cheers and best of luck !

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 4:11 pm 
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I frame AA as

"the feeling you get when you are attracted to someone, so approach and find out otherwise she is gone forever."

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:21 am 
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I can't even count the number of "total strikeout" evenings that I've had...and they have a habit of coming in groups...

but let's be honest, just one killer night here and there completely balances them all out

stay strong and know that the act of getting out there is 99% of the challenge!


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 3:27 am 
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Got some good news. This Friday I went out into town by myself and told myself that I wouldn't go home until I had approached at least 10 sets/targets.

Things were pretty shitty to start off with. Some guy DLV'd me in the first set and the second set wasn't much better. By the time I got to the third set I was feeling pretty beaten down but I went in all smiles anyway and proceeded to game a HB8 with red hair, I was just about to number close but then the obstacle pulled her away.

But the fourth set is when things started to get really good.

I don't know what happened. It's like my PUA skills suddenly shifted into overdrive. I opened the set easily and isolated the target (another HB8) within 10 minutes. We talked while I kino escalated and before I knew it I was kiss closing. I got her number and told her we should get together sometime. She bit her lip all sexy just before I left and looked at me like I was a Calvin Klein underwear model.

After that I was on fire for the rest of the night. It was the exactly the confidence boost I needed. I managed to open 8 more sets, number close 5 more girls and kiss close 2 more girls.

I went home by about 2am and even though I was exhausted I don't ever think I've felt so good about myself in my life.

I wanted to say Thanks to everyone here. I couldn't have done it without you guys.

Especially you zexphyrium. It helped me a lot to know I wasn't the only one out there with this problem. Stay classy man.

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