Alright, bud. Would love to hear ur feedback on it whenever u get time 4 that. Thank you

Sent her a blank text. If she responds with 'why did u send me a blank txt?' will txt back 'U dont have to come up with excuses to talk to me hun!'.

I'm not completely sure why you even did that.. What was your intention man?

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Just don't want to deal with backfire on the next date. I was thinking of txting her today smthg like 'How's my little brat doing?' and leaving it at that until she txts back. Giving her very little doses of attention(like txting her once in a 2-3 days) shouldn't hurt. What do u think?
Btw, what do u think of the last time I hung out with her?

I think you did solid job considering the background of the situation. It sounds like you guys had a great time and the friend was digging you more than she was. I do believe she is still in love with her ex and her intention was to try to use you to get over him; so you have to play it cool. Don't chase her man.. Don't try to force this; if it doesn't come to you let it go.


How was the friend though ? Was she attractive?

I have an interesting idea..

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Well, I have a solid teacher lol Thank you, Joey. Her friend was not as cute as her but pretty much fuckable lol
I was actually thinking of txting her friend instead of txting her -might make her jealous &at the same time open more options for me. Was ur idea close to my thinking? lol

There were lots of changes ive noticed in her as far as body language and overall behavior goes: 1. she would let me touch her legs, 2. I used some advices on alpha body language, one of which was to kinda stretch hands across the table and i'd touch her hand time to time when it was near my hand - at some point she grabbed my hand and started squeezing(pinching) fingers of my hand with hers then stopped suddenlyand exclaimed 'Why are u holding my hand' to which me &her friend laughed and her friend said 'u were holding his in the first place!', 3. She did grab my ass and she let me touch hers, 4. She tried to touch my chest muscle while trying to stick that piece of napkin under my shirt lol and I did grab her boob when I put that piece under her shirt lol 5. She did chase me when I pretended I was leavin,6. The last hug was different - b4 she'd keep her hips away giving me friendly hugs and this time her hips were all the way in and the hug was longer..
I have a feeling that she wants me but at the same time her ex bf is still holding her off.
Do u think I should txt her today(I didn't txt her yet - was waiting on ur response)? &what should I respond when she accuses me of not txting her?

Yea. Everything we did before the meetup was so should could be as responsive as she was during the hangout. Do you think she would of been that flirty if you hung out with her after the first post ?



Call her. If she brings the text thing up say " Lets focus on the present, the past is irrelevant, im talking with you now." If she insists, laugh it off and politey suggest you just speak with her another time; when she can live in the moment with you.


About the friend.. leave her.. Seduction only works when its genuine, if it'll be some plot to get this girl jealous an more interested in you it will backfire. Only if you were genuinely into her would it work.

You're growing man. I'm proud of you

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Tnx bud -doing my best )

Tried to call but her phone is turned off. So I guess I'll just txt her or send a message on fb

Wait dude..

Just call at a better time.. Don't rush or force it like I said.

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Wait dude..

Just call at a better time.. Don't rush or force it like I said.[/quote]/
im afraid to disappoint u but its too late. I think i fucked it up alittle, too. Anyways, here's how it went:
me: 'How's my favorite little brat doing?'
her:'I'm not a brat but haha im doing fine. Wbu?'
me:'I'm doing good. About to start my back+shoulders workout. Btw, what's up with ur phone -its turned off?' (i think i fucked up with this question..)
her:'I didnt know it was off, it must of cut off by itself. Its on now. But how'd u know it was off?(should of called when she said it was on:/ seems she started seeking validation or smthg)
me:'how do u think I'd know it was off? Lol'
her:'dont get smart. Y'd I ask u if i didnt know?'
Me:'I guessed! Lol'
her:'U must of called it?'
me:'No,I called ur mom &she told me :p'
her:'Nice try. Y'd call me phone anyways'

so i guess i have 2 options here: 1.ignore her &not answer anything but she might think im afraid to admit smthg&2.Txt her 'just wated to check on u'&leave it@that

You didn't listen - This is all on you man. I can't continue to bring you back when you take dives. How long is this suppose to go on?

Sorry dude.

I normally don't do this much for free, but I felt for you.

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Hey man. Sorry I fucked up but im no good at this. Trying to improve tho. &I appreciate ur help very much bro. Its just I thought since her phone wasn't working txting her would do. Too bad my laptop ran out of juice b4 I could see ur reply. I should of waited &call her another time - u're right. But I don't think I fucked things up that much - just messed around with her a little that's all. &I decided not to reply to that last txt of hers - seems like she tried hard to get that validation or smthg.

I was thinking to call her either today or tomorrow &say smthg like :' Hey, I've planned to go to Callaway Gardens this Saturday. Ur welcome to tag along'. If she says no I can say 'that's ok -I'll invite some1 else' &ignore her until she starts txting smthg positive. What do u think?

Its all fine dude - you didn't mess it.

Now lets stop playing the " you can tag along game " and just really tackle the issue like men. That was for then, now you must go at her. " lets go out together.. I want to do xyz" - over the phone of course.


But once again man. I think you got this.. If you are looking for further instruction, it won't be free. I love you though dude. And I'm happy I helped you get this far.

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Now, how do we deal with rejections(if she denies to go out that most likely will be like a shit-test or smthg - I'm 99% sure she wants to go out with me at this point) over the phone. If with txts I can ignore, over the phone is different - I'll have to say smthg b4 hang up..Whats the best way to pass/tackle a denial to go out? &what's the best way to counter an uncertain response over the phone(like 'idl yet', 'i might', 'im not sure yet', etc)?

Best way to deal with rejection ? Well there is none. It sucks. Tell her "Um, ok too bad." That's it. Go out have fun, occupy yourself. Rejection sucks always. But you'll get used to it over time because it's part of life. Once you realize she is not the only woman.

Mate I'm telling you that if you are afraid to get rejected by this girl, you will fuck this up I guarantee you.

I suggest you go and try your best with this girl. Any more advice here will just confuse you, there are somethings which you have to experience yourself, people gave you a shitton of advice here already.

Good luck