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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:44 pm 
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I've been testing this out for a while and the result is good enough to share. Okay I'm lazy, so I've always trying to find the most effective with the least effort as possible. I sent this opener to about 100 girls a week and about 65 of them responded back (well given that my profile is quite great with plenty of humor). So 65% success rate for spending 15 minutes a week sending out the messages, I can live with that.

Opener: I like your energy [name/nickname]. Give me your number and we'll see if you're as fun as you appear to be on your profile.

or any variation of that.

There are two important key points here that you guys need to keep in mind. One, the name or nickname takes like 5 sec to type in, however it gives them the impression that you actually read their profiles and your messages appear less generic. Second, I don't ask for number, I tell them to give it to me.

Why does this opener work? Well most of the guys on dating site do not have the ball to do this, they usually spend the entire week messaging back and forth before asking for number. You're also addressing your intention and save you both time and energy shooting messages back and forth for nothing. If a woman is not interested in you, it doesn't matter which opener you send, you're just not her type. So this will screen those out very quickly. The remain ones that are interested in you will respond back either give you their numbers (great! Just fluff texts and schedule a date already) or they somewhat tell you that you will need to get to know them better ( you can just spend the next few response to ask questions and tease her then ask for number again).

What happens after getting the number depends on your games though. That's it. Test it out :lol:

WARNING: This is only for people that have decent profiles and know what they're doing. Newbies can try this at your own risk. But you will probably crash and burn.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:06 pm 
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I've been testing this out for a while and the result is good enough to share. Okay I'm lazy, so I've always trying to find the most effective with the least effort as possible. I sent this opener to about 100 girls a week and about 65 of them responded back (well given that my profile is quite great with plenty of humor). So 65% success rate for spending 15 minutes a week sending out the messages, I can live with that.

Opener: I like your energy [name/nickname]. Give me your number and we'll see if you're as fun as you appear on your profile.

or any variation of that.

There are two important key points here that you guys need to keep in mind. One, the name or nickname takes like 5 sec to type in, however it gives them the impression that you actually read their profiles and your messages appear less generic. Second, I don't ask for number, I tell them to give it to me.

Why does this opener work? Well most of the guys on dating site do not have the ball to do this, they usually spend the entire week messaging back and forth before asking for number. You're also addressing your intention and save you both time and energy shooting messages back and forth for nothing. If a woman is not interested in you, it doesn't matter which opener you send, you're just not her type. So this will screen those out very quickly. The remain ones that are interested in you will respond back either give you their numbers (great! Just fluff texts and schedule a date already) or they somewhat tell you that you will need to get to know them better ( you can just spend the next few response to ask questions and tease her then ask for number again).

What happens after getting the number depends on your games though. That's it. Test it out :lol:

WARNING: This is only for people that have decent profiles and know what they're doing. Newbies can try this at your own risk. But you will probably crash and burn.
Gotta be that profile ;)

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:33 am 
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I tried this with 5 girls on okcupid just now and got no replies. Not even looks at my profile. Any suggestions?

Here's my profile. I tried to keep it short.


My self-summary
Hey what's good, I see you just landed on my page. Did it hurt? :D I do a lot of driving. I see creatures. That's all i'm going to say about that. :) I really appreciate a young lady that is kind and at least tolerable to other people different then her. I'm ready for that email. I haven't got all day. :)

What I’m doing with my life
Working, hanging out then more work. Going back to school for computer programming this fall.

I’m really good at
Writing stories. Math. Dancing. Making real goofy faces. Real goofy faces. :)

The first things people usually notice about me
My glasses. My chest.

Favorite books, movies, shows, music, and food
I could tell you but what would you ask on our first date?

The six things I could never do without
Water. SPAM. Peace of mind. Food. Sleep. Shelter.

I spend a lot of time thinking about
Musical beats. They ring in my head almost all day.

On a typical Friday night I am
Sometimes working. If not maybe going out.
The most private thing I’m willing to admit
Get to know me and see what you can get out of me. ;)

I’m looking for
Girls who like guys
Ages 18–24
Near me
Who are single
For new friends, long-term dating, short-term dating

You should message me if
You weally weally want to my lady. ;)


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 2:09 pm 
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I tried this with 5 girls on okcupid just now and got no replies. Not even looks at my profile. Any suggestions?

Here's my profile. I tried to keep it short.


My self-summary
Hey what's good, I see you just landed on my page. Did it hurt? :D I do a lot of driving. I see creatures. That's all i'm going to say about that. :) I really appreciate a young lady that is kind and at least tolerable to other people different then her. I'm ready for that email. I haven't got all day. :)

What I’m doing with my life
Working, hanging out then more work. Going back to school for computer programming this fall.

I’m really good at
Writing stories. Math. Dancing. Making real goofy faces. Real goofy faces. :)

The first things people usually notice about me
My glasses. My chest.

Favorite books, movies, shows, music, and food
I could tell you but what would you ask on our first date?

The six things I could never do without
Water. SPAM. Peace of mind. Food. Sleep. Shelter.

I spend a lot of time thinking about
Musical beats. They ring in my head almost all day.

On a typical Friday night I am
Sometimes working. If not maybe going out.
The most private thing I’m willing to admit
Get to know me and see what you can get out of me. ;)

I’m looking for
Girls who like guys
Ages 18–24
Near me
Who are single
For new friends, long-term dating, short-term dating

You should message me if
You weally weally want to my lady. ;)
- Your profile appears a little bit choppy like it was written by an ADD person.
- Also lacks of humor and hooks.
- You don't have to answer every single question on there, just pick your favorite one and leave others blanked unless you have something very clever to say (favorite books, first thing ppl notice, things cannot live without, etc...)
- Too many emoticons :D, :), cut back on those, typically I only use one or two in my whole profile

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:55 pm 
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I did throw in some jokes, like:
I see you just landed on my page. Did it hurt?
I do a lot of driving. I see creatures. That's all i'm going to say about that.

You should message me if
You weally weally want to my lady. -Elmer Fudd voice

What kind of humor are you suggesting?


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:01 pm 
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I did throw in some jokes, like:
I see you just landed on my page. Did it hurt?
I do a lot of driving. I see creatures. That's all i'm going to say about that.

You should message me if
You weally weally want to my lady. -Elmer Fudd voice

What kind of humor are you suggesting?
Listen to GKS .. your profile is quite bad, no offense. Goofy and dorky ass humor is not attractive. FUNNY is. Two very different things. Think "alpha" funny, not freakin cartoons and puns.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:06 pm 
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I tried this with 5 girls on okcupid just now and got no replies. Not even looks at my profile. Any suggestions?

Here's my profile. I tried to keep it short.


My self-summary
Hey what's good, I see you just landed on my page. Did it hurt? :D I do a lot of driving. I see creatures. That's all i'm going to say about that. :) I really appreciate a young lady that is kind and at least tolerable to other people different then her. I'm ready for that email. I haven't got all day. :)

What I’m doing with my life
Working, hanging out then more work. Going back to school for computer programming this fall.

I’m really good at
Writing stories. Math. Dancing. Making real goofy faces. Real goofy faces. :)

The first things people usually notice about me
My glasses. My chest.

Favorite books, movies, shows, music, and food
I could tell you but what would you ask on our first date?

The six things I could never do without
Water. SPAM. Peace of mind. Food. Sleep. Shelter.

I spend a lot of time thinking about
Musical beats. They ring in my head almost all day.

On a typical Friday night I am
Sometimes working. If not maybe going out.
The most private thing I’m willing to admit
Get to know me and see what you can get out of me. ;)

I’m looking for
Girls who like guys
Ages 18–24
Near me
Who are single
For new friends, long-term dating, short-term dating

You should message me if
You weally weally want to my lady. ;)

You're probably ugly bro.

Just kidding.

You have boring profile, I can imagine your pics are boring too, even your 'jokes' are boring and not funny.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:48 pm 
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Hey Pebble, can you give me an example of a good profile?

Yo The Fury, what is alpha funny? any examples?

Tips appreciated

Edited Badoo Profile
http://badoo.com/01198664239/

Working on the info too just haven't thought of a good intro.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:21 am 
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Sorry to say but your profile sucks...

Begin with taking some pick that shows you have style (clothes) and don't put pictures you took from yourself in the mirror...
Your pic with AXE is your main pic...DUUUUDE..that's lame...
I'm not a PUA, but you gotta do better than that.
Have 4 pics max... In all pics you should be a well groomed man...no shorts...no mirror pics..not too much smiles... and shave.
I can translate my profile for you... use it only if you're a sensitve guy that understands women, otherwise you will look stupid on text and real life

Me: An optimistic and realistic dreamer...

Great job, love to travel and love to create life to it's fullest, and make every day the best day of my life.
With all possibilties I can might as well settle down, or take my dreamgirl for a dreamjourney...whatever feels right good at that moment..

Nice house, shack on the beach, maybe even kids...together with a women that loves to laugh and smile and knows how to enjoy life..

I want to be that guy that Sweeps You Off Your Feet!!!

I want to know what makes you smile, I want to know what makes you laugh till your belly hurts, I wanna know what excites you, I want to know everything and then be that man that delivers...
I love a woman who isn't easily conquered, caus I like the challenge to win your heart... You're sensual, strong and sweet.
What you will get is a real strong men, that knows how you feel, when you feel... The one that works as your alarm clock in the morning, by giving soft kisses in your neck, just when you have to wake up.
I want you to feel that special woman in the relationship, so you can feel like the only woman that matters in the entire universe...
Create something special...being together...Life doesn't get any better than that.
If you are a woman that can fully appreciate this, leave a message here...


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 2:46 pm 
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Dude, your profile has some positives but it also kinda sucks... It is structured ok in terms of spacing etc. but it is borderline creepy.
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Sorry to say but your profile sucks...

Begin with taking some pick that shows you have style (clothes) and don't put pictures you took from yourself in the mirror...
Your pic with AXE is your main pic...DUUUUDE..that's lame...
I'm not a PUA, but you gotta do better than that.
Have 4 pics max... In all pics you should be a well groomed man...no shorts...no mirror pics..not too much smiles... and shave.
I can translate my profile for you... use it only if you're a sensitve guy that understands women, otherwise you will look stupid on text and real life

Me: An optimistic and realistic dreamer...

Great job, love to travel and love to create life to it's fullest, and make every day the best day of my life.
With all possibilties I can might as well settle down, or take my dreamgirl for a dreamjourney...whatever feels right good at that moment..

Nice house, shack on the beach, maybe even kids...together with a women that loves to laugh and smile and knows how to enjoy life..

I want to be that guy that Sweeps You Off Your Feet!!!

I want to know what makes you smile, I want to know what makes you laugh till your belly hurts, I wanna know what excites you, I want to know everything and then be that man that delivers...
I love a woman who isn't easily conquered, caus I like the challenge to win your heart... You're sensual, strong and sweet.
What you will get is a real strong men, that knows how you feel, when you feel... The one that works as your alarm clock in the morning, by giving soft kisses in your neck, just when you have to wake up.
I want you to feel that special woman in the relationship, so you can feel like the only woman that matters in the entire universe...
Create something special...being together...Life doesn't get any better than that.
If you are a woman that can fully appreciate this, leave a message here...

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 4:46 pm 
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Like I said..am not a pua... From one site got tremendous amounts of reactions...most saying... You know what a woman wants... Too bad they were not hot babes..

I got off dating sites anyway... I prefer real life..


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:14 pm 
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Me: An optimistic and realistic dreamer...

Great job, love to travel and love to create life to it's fullest, and make every day the best day of my life.
With all possibilties I can might as well settle down, or take my dreamgirl for a dreamjourney...whatever feels right good at that moment..

Nice house, shack on the beach, maybe even kids...together with a women that loves to laugh and smile and knows how to enjoy life..

I want to be that guy that Sweeps You Off Your Feet!!!

I want to know what makes you smile, I want to know what makes you laugh till your belly hurts, I wanna know what excites you, I want to know everything and then be that man that delivers...
I love a woman who isn't easily conquered, caus I like the challenge to win your heart... You're sensual, strong and sweet.
What you will get is a real strong men, that knows how you feel, when you feel... The one that works as your alarm clock in the morning, by giving soft kisses in your neck, just when you have to wake up.
I want you to feel that special woman in the relationship, so you can feel like the only woman that matters in the entire universe...
Create something special...being together...Life doesn't get any better than that.
If you are a woman that can fully appreciate this, leave a message here...
You have some good materials, however it's a bit too long, too cheesy, lack of humor and a bit desperate. I'd rewrite it like this:
Quote:
Me: I think Twilight is the most amazing movie ever...

Got your attention didn't I? ;) Have you ever dreamed about being swept off your feet and falling in love head over heels? That's what I'm looking for, a smart and adventurous woman, who can show me that romance and chivalry aren't dead. Oh yes you can open the doors for me, I definitely won't accuse you for making me feel any less masculine. While you're at it, I'd totally be fine with you paying for dinner too even though I'd be like "OMG! now I owe you something, does that mean I have to put out tonight?". I'm not that kind of guy though, I'm not like most guys. I won't kiss until the 3rd date or put out until date 20th.

Other than that, I do enjoy making women giggle and laugh. Nothing really beats a smile that can light up the whole room... well unless we're dining in the dark which is incredibly fun if you haven't tried before. I also pretty good at cooking and I bet a drink that I can cook a better tiramisu than you. Seriously, if you can't cook, you'll never get on my potential girlfriend list.

Alright stop eyefucking me from across the room and come say hi already ;)

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:15 pm 
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Haha, I like this. It works on occasion (enough to make it worth it), and I've been told off quite a few times.

Obviously, you need a good profile because mine is pretty top notch and I still don't have a very high success rate.


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