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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:52 pm 
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I didn't say deny it's existence. Quite the contrary, I suggested actively not thinking about it. As for your last comment, if you really think kissing a girl is the same as kissing a guys dick literally then you need serious professional help.
How does it help to stop thinking about it?
I made a mistake and stayed with her and been dating her for almost a year. And the PUA community attacked me for slut-shaming, because I was surprised with her history. Not the number but the fact that she threw away her virginity with a stranger and sucked another the same night by playing the turn the bottle game, when 17yr old, while she made me wait a month for sex until we became official because it had to be 'special' for her. Which means I'm a sucker beta and now in trouble, since it lasted as relationship.

The problem is, none of you were in similar situation (as far as I know, nobody on the internet was), so you can't understand my state of mind. Most people wouldn't commit to such a girl, thats why no one had this problem.
Ah, ok, well NOW i see what your issue is. It is not her history, but that YOU had to wait while others didn't. Yet another reason why I do not ask sexual history, and one reason why I am very aggressive in getting sex early and will often eject on women who do not have sex very early in the relationship. I feel what you mean but still, you are taking it too far.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:10 pm 
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Ah, ok, well NOW i see what your issue is. It is not her history, but that YOU had to wait while others didn't. Yet another reason why I do not ask sexual history, and one reason why I am very aggressive in getting sex early and will often eject on women who do not have sex very early in the relationship. I feel what you mean but still, you are taking it too far.
Well, its both, one ties to the other.
She seemed inexperienced completely and I didn't have the info back then, so I wasn't aggressive, I escalated systematically. So this means she percieved me as beta provider from beginning?
And how can I communicate this crap with her now after LTR is already rolling, when she already made me a doormat?


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:36 pm 
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Ah, ok, well NOW i see what your issue is. It is not her history, but that YOU had to wait while others didn't. Yet another reason why I do not ask sexual history, and one reason why I am very aggressive in getting sex early and will often eject on women who do not have sex very early in the relationship. I feel what you mean but still, you are taking it too far.
Well, its both, one ties to the other.
She seemed inexperienced completely and I didn't have the info back then, so I wasn't aggressive, I escalated systematically. So this means she percieved me as beta provider from beginning?
And how can I communicate this crap with her now after LTR is already rolling, when she already made me a doormat?
If you are happy in your LTR, having a good time, etc? Just forget about it. You can't undue the past, as long as you are not a doormat now, you are fine. You escalated too slowly because you didn't have info, so what, it happened. End of the day, you have the girl, and if she makes you happy, that is what counts.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:44 pm 
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If she doesn't have STD's who the fuck cares how many guys she has been with so long as she is with you and only you now.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:33 am 
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It matters because if she was so incredibly cheap and couldn't control herself back then to at least loose virginity clear-headed, and was crazy enough to suck off stranger, then what would make me think she won't do something like that again?

By acting like that she had chosen the path of sluttery, and actions do have consequences. By what standards did she earned 'trust' and serious commitment? By demonstrating the lack of character?

Besides, she can be shady. Her old posts on social network were amazingly juvenille vulgar rants with her shady underage bitches obsessed with sexual stuff for which they aren't mature enough, until she deleted them. She recently put her friend list on 'hidden'. And so on, but all of that would be less problematic if she hadn't been a one-night dick-devouring slut in the very first sexual experience.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 1:40 am 
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People make mistakes. Either you get past this or you breakup really no other option. Honestly though if you truly have feeling for her then let her show you she is trustworthy. Just don't get super attached for a while just in case something fucked up happens. But if I were you I would forget about this bullshit look forward and not back. GOOD LUCK


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It matters because if she was so incredibly cheap and couldn't control herself back then to at least loose virginity clear-headed, and was crazy enough to suck off stranger, then what would make me think she won't do something like that again?

By acting like that she had chosen the path of sluttery, and actions do have consequences. By what standards did she earned 'trust' and serious commitment? By demonstrating the lack of character?

Besides, she can be shady. Her old posts on social network were amazingly juvenille vulgar rants with her shady underage bitches obsessed with sexual stuff for which they aren't mature enough, until she deleted them. She recently put her friend list on 'hidden'. And so on, but all of that would be less problematic if she hadn't been a one-night dick-devouring slut in the very first sexual experience.
You need professional help. Get over it, or dump her. It is what it is. Just about every woman will have a one night stand (or has had) in her lifetime. Yea, it's best when that one night stand is you, but if you have this attitude you will always be jealous and unhappy and in this state. Get some professional help or put in very conscious effort to not know or find out anything about your future girls sexual history or both.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:22 pm 
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You need professional help. Get over it, or dump her. It is what it is. Just about every woman will have a one night stand (or has had) in her lifetime. Yea, it's best when that one night stand is you, but if you have this attitude you will always be jealous and unhappy and in this state. Get some professional help or put in very conscious effort to not know or find out anything about your future girls sexual history or both.
Really, just about every woman? By what statistics? If we are going to talk with no evidence, then I can say that most women(if not low lifes) from what I've seen are repulsed by one night stands or giving it to strangers. They especially aren't getting rammed off virginity like animals with randoms, in groups. Women are not wired to risk everything by offering vagina and sexual services around for free(as in evolutionary terms), except whores of course.

Don't try to make it into something normal, or like its only that simple - 'break up or get over it'. A lots of men are having similar thoughts like me, when they already built relationships with women but have the knowledge they've been used like trash. Easy for you to say 'get over it' since you probably wish more women are like that.

Also, just for the info - I told her once that if I knew all these things instantly early on - we wouldn't be dating now.


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You need professional help. Get over it, or dump her. It is what it is. Just about every woman will have a one night stand (or has had) in her lifetime. Yea, it's best when that one night stand is you, but if you have this attitude you will always be jealous and unhappy and in this state. Get some professional help or put in very conscious effort to not know or find out anything about your future girls sexual history or both.
Really, just about every woman? By what statistics? If we are going to talk with no evidence, then I can say that most women(if not low lifes) from what I've seen are repulsed by one night stands or giving it to strangers. They especially aren't getting rammed off virginity like animals with randoms, in groups. Women are not wired to risk everything by offering vagina and sexual services around for free(as in evolutionary terms), except whores of course.

Don't try to make it into something normal, or like its only that simple - 'break up or get over it'. A lots of men are having similar thoughts like me, when they already built relationships with women but have the knowledge they've been used like trash. Easy for you to say 'get over it' since you probably wish more women are like that.

Also, just for the info - I told her once that if I knew all these things instantly early on - we wouldn't be dating now.
EDITED ... I will send you a PM instead of this post.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 4:53 am 
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But as you described it, 4 months before you were together, that's actually a whole lot of none of your fucking business unless she rewards you with that information.
Well, she did. Half-information voluntarily - too quickly in dating stage, and the other half (blowjob part) few months later when I asked her myself about something that seemed to be missing in the story.
There is a lesson here to be learned for you. A few of them actually. Focus your energy on learning the lessons. First lesson: Don't ask questions you aren't prepared for any answer to.

You can determine the rest of the lessons from the points others raised on your own.


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Honestly, if I were you, given your extreme disgust towards sexuality, I would question my being in the game altogether.

It sounds to me like the idea that a woman experiences her sexuality and looks for pleasure as freely as a man would is something that deeply offends you. Whether it's religious, or just some deep-rooted belief of yours, you will probably be much happier in life with a very sexually repressed virgin who has only had sex with you for reproductive purposes a couple times in her lifetime, rather than with a liberated woman who feels free to express her naughtiest wild self with you.

Never judge a woman for being sexual. Unless you're rewarding her for being sexual with you, that is :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 2:15 am 
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"Game" is a tool, an abstraction of underlying science/biology, and nothing else, goals are personal/individual makes the value. I don't even have to answer this.

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What do you all think, is it the best if I ask her (subtly or however) if she would want to continue her sexual life from the past? So that she doesn't blind her 'liking of sex' (certain type of sex) with me coming into equation, and I don't pretend to be some "alpha" to stop her on personal preferences. Because according to everything, I'm ruining her sexual needs with 'relationship'.


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"Game" is a tool, an abstraction of underlying science/biology, and nothing else, goals are personal/individual makes the value. I don't even have to answer this.

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What do you all think, is it the best if I ask her (subtly or however) if she would want to continue her sexual life from the past? So that she doesn't blind her 'liking of sex' (certain type of sex) with me coming into equation, and I don't pretend to be some "alpha" to stop her on personal preferences. Because according to everything, I'm ruining her sexual needs with 'relationship'.
No you shouldn't. If you like her just try your best to forget about her history already. We had this discussion over PM. Just drop the subject. Try your best and seek professional help to help you just forget about it if you really like her and want to stay with her. Worry about both of you having a good sex life and the future, not the past.

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Dude you have some serious mental issues.... what do you want to fuck one girl the rest of your life? By your thoughts you'd only like to fuck one woman....

If you want to stick with this thought... of only fucking virgins then I'd say you better go figure something out... because the only way you are going to consistently find virgins is jumping into a extremely conservative religion(such as Mormons) then you have to wait until your married.... but at least you're almost guaranteed to get laid and a get a virgin...

I can't believe you could be so shallow.. I'm dumbfounded...

You're concept of your girlfriend fucking and sucking other men is unreal... So what? Why can't the girl go out and have fun? You sound like a fucking missionary or ultra religious person who has a seriously mentally unhealthy outlook on sex...

You have an unreal outlook dude... a woman can't suck or fuck another guy and you prolly feel you're entitled to fucking tons of "virgins"... yet they aren't entitled to multiple people?

Locking this thread simply because I feel you're trolling very hard... and you've treated women with disrespect... I love women too much for your attitude to be spread across the forum... This is down right disrespectful of women and quite offensive to be honest...

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This reminds of your attitude...

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