First off... let me say kiss close routines are great, but terrible at the same time. While they have high success rates, add social proof, boost self esteem, and give great practice kissing, too often they don't lead anywhere past a kiss. The reason for this is there's no comfort or attraction being built prior.

My kiss close "routine" has given me a 100% success rate, after a certain point that is. I'll explain at the beginning of the next paragraph. So I begin the routine the second the date starts, whether the date is a traditional going out date or her coming over and watching a movie. I kino from the beginning, starting with a hug (assuming I knew her from before), then a touch on the arm during conversation, while we're on our way to the date location. I touch her arm a few times then when we stop moving (driving or walking) and get to the date location I hold her hand. This is assuming the date isn't something like a walk on the beach or a boardwalk. If it is then hold her hand when you're there.

When I say I have 100% success rate, that is assuming she doesn't pull away when I hold her hand. After holding her hand I keep the conversation going and let go of her hand and put my arm around her shoulder. Once its there I stop contributing to the conversation, just smiling and letting her talk, answering questions very closed ended. While she's talking I give her the triangular gaze (looking from one eye to the other then her lips, then back to her eyes). Once she finally shuts up I put my other hand on her cheek and pull her in for the kiss.

The key to this is it seem very natural. Other traditional kiss close routine comes off as planned out and robotic, without building attraction. This will lead to a very nice kiss, but nothing more than that. With my kiss close "routine" you can make out for a few minutes then tell the girl "cmon lets get outta here" and bring her back to a place where you guys can seal the deal.

Sorry to put you down but how is it a 100% success rate if the girls are already meeting you up for a date?

If a girl is on a date with you = she likes you

By this logic, "just kissing her" is a 100% rate (as long as she is into you)

Now, if you were to use this "routine" on a cold approach on the 1st meet, then the success rate is dramatically reduced unless you are Johnny Depp or me= not a 100% success rate.

Sorry if this makes me sound like a dick. But..

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Dude thanks, I saved this kclose routine on my pc. It is very detailed and really what I needed. I always had problems going for the makeout. I've been on dates with 6 girls from cold approach and I got only 1 makeout, so I'll see how it goes.

+1. If you are already on a date, you're almost always gonna get a kiss. When I think of kiss close, I'm thinking on the same day you met her

Same thing that Pebble said, you're always going to get a kiss on a date, it's like a guaranteed thing.

Go up and try that routine on new girls you just meet randomly, that will get way too much challenging mainly because your routine involves some type of romance style. A girl in a club might not even let you rap your hand around her shoulder.

Be careful, it's a good way to kino in dates, but not in pickup.

k-closes are great to build confidence but realistically, it is like practicing not airballing. You should be practicing how to score; and often times, the best way to do that is to only go for a k-close if you are in a sex location.

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