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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 7:43 pm 
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Here's one set at Rocking Rodeo. I would really appreciate some advice.

saw a 3set blowing guys out. Three approaches three no's. By the time i walk over it's down to a 2set. Target blond and skinny friend.

Hey guys, i'm with quality control for the bar. I need to know if you are having a Rocking Rodeo good time…. they make me say that (to the friend), good time, or shitty time.

Target - that really cute. We are having an awesome time. (i high five her). How about you?

i'm having a great time!

Target- ya i bet you have an awesome job.

I don't actually work here…. you don't?! her friend is like duh… he doesn't have a name tag.

After this i do the best friend test, Drunk i love yous routine and talk mostly to the friend. Friend gets pulled away buy guy asking her to dance and i tease target about how she's not jumping in to save her friend. Her friend has two drinks and uses that as an excuse not to dance. So i tell the target that wouldn't work on me… i'd take one of her drinks. See watch. Ask friend to dance, she holds up two drinks, i try to take one but she's too fast. We all laugh. Then i ask target if what she's drinking, take it out of her hand and have a drink myself. Then tease her and say she's like the bratty sister i never had (hug).

I leave to get some water, they go to the restroom so i make a few more approaches.

End of night, i see her. Chat a bit, say lets dance. She says no, tease a bit.
I'm about to leave… put your number in my phone"
She laughs "i don't give my number out"
I say i don't either but i'm busy tomorrow so the most i can text you is like 50 times (target and friend both laugh) but i'm free the text day so i'll be able to text like 100 times and call you 20-30 times. (Targets still laughing.) So i'm teasing, but thats what your afraid of right?
target - i know but i don't think your that psyco. Your funny, i like you.
So, give me your number and if i don't send you the most hilarious text you don't have to respond.
"no i don't give my number out"
Ok, then Facebook.
i don't have Facebook.
I'm not sure i even want to talk to you anymore.

I tell her the gummy bear joke. When she laughs i say i'm saving my good material for the text. Now you tell me a joke. We trade jokes. I eject.

I can see how i should have pushed some kino. The kino in the set was quite light. Other than that i feel like it was a decent set. I'm not sure why i didn't get a number, and i didn't think to ask for email…but i don't really want email anyhow.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 11:10 pm 
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You might've conveyed too much interest and was reaction seeking. Are you doing Mystery Method? You did A1 and A2, but didn't seem to do A3, the male to female interest.

You need to convey that you weren't interested, but something she did was starting to grab your attention. Frame that she is chasing you, and start screening her. Say something like "There's something about you that draws me to you, I'm not quite sure what it is, because the 15 minutes I've been chatting with you so far, you don't seem to have anything intelligent to say. So, what is it? You are obviously blessed in the gene pool, but beauty is common. What are three things, besides beauty, taht would make me drawn into you?"


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:01 am 
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Hey thanks thats a good tip. I didn't do anything to qualify her.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 4:04 pm 
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There is a certain point in the interaction when you need to switch gears... It feels like you missed it... but without witnessing it I can't tell you... She had fun you guys joked... however you did a few things that I normally don't until I have a certain level of comfort... I'm not sure you had that at that point in the interaction...

You tried to take each of their drinks.... I'm not big on this... People are naturally territorial... you grabbing her drink early in an interaction shows you invading her space... her "territory"... and if you're not careful it can end up ruining the interaction...

The way you asked for her number was a bit too jokey for my style... I use the "I don't normally do this... but can you feel we have a bit of a connection(look for compliance- smile, head nod, etc. )... I'd like to continue our conversation later...(look for compliance signs again)... we should grab a drink/coffee (look for compliance)... put your phone number in so we can grab a drink..."

One thing I do tend to do is joke a bit then add an element of seriousness to things.... the class clown doesn't get laid as many people think he is attractive... Someone (don't remember who) wrote something along the lines of joke 1-2 times then give a serious answer when someone asks a question...

Seems like you sparked that initial attraction between you guys but then didn't change it up... as soon as you gained attraction you need to shift a little and start to create some sort of connection between you guys... begin to share an experience... you didn't raise your personal value to her by adding another dimension to yourself (serious substance side)... simply continued on joking... I used to do this all the time... People loved me we had fun but I merely would get lucky here and there my sex life was to say the least shitty...

As soon as you hooked the conversation you need to add something serious to them...When you see a girl reject 3 guys straight you need to be different... it's obvious she's not looking... she's not entertaining guys... Which means you should make yourself different... establish more than the last guys...

You were still nothing but a funny stranger to her... even attractive but not necessarily heavily interested in you... you're just that clown guy who has fun talking to strangers but didn't really establish much more...

I'd agree that you didn't create a situation where she qualified for you.... which means it is more like you trying to qualify for her... this is more of a weak frame... If a girl starts qualifying me (How old are you?, what do you do for work?, where do you live?, etc.) I literally call her on her shit... didn't realize we were at the qualifying part of this interaction... How am I doing? I then shift the conversation to make her qualify for me...

Yesterday for instance my cousin's gf brought some other girl... I gave her shit to start... and most guys didn't so we immediately hit it off... she began qualifying for me pretty early in the interaction... she'd agree with my interests... she inquired about my age... about my job... However... I didn't really answer her questions too straight forward immediately... on many of the questions I made her qualify first... but the most important thing was that we had a connection simply by sharing interests... we'd watched several of the same documentaries... we'd enjoyed many of the same things... Sharing interest is a form of qualifying as well... if you don't have commonalities the interest will dry up...

^This was the difference in our interaction... I joked with the girl for a bit to begin with giving her shit but then I would get serious and we would exchange more substance... Early in the interaction I said well I'm going to get a drink... she followed me saying I'll go with you... She took to me IMMEDIATELY... Then I read her body language and just kind of knew what she was thinking... it made a connection most guys don't simply by me reading her and sharing interests... even complimenting her interests... by the end of the night we'd went on an instadate...

Peace and Love,

Vic

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