Field Report: 1-18-08

Attempt 1:
Dunkin Donuts
Summary: 1HB 1UB and 1 G sitting. Right away, the UG makes eye contact, I look away., buy a coffee, and then go to the bathroom. Upon getting out I walk back to the front, look outside, turn around and I do the Two Girls opener, and they ask me about the identity of the girls, then I tell them about the guy and they ask about him. The HB gives an IOI, from the start trying to get my attention, looking me in the eye and asking about the girls. I then ask if anyone had a phone I could borrow. No one did, and the G made a joke about being Amish. Awkward after that, I asked the other girl, who said no, and I had to ask someone else. Greeeeat.
Proposed mistakes: Walked in, no 3 second rule. I MUST use the 3 second rule. that guy was no more handsome than me, so why did I feel intimidated when he was there with the other girls? Sure, I looked like a mess, but still. Everyone was alerted of my presence, and that was it.
Next time: approach the guys/uglies 1st. and ask them about the girls. before I even buy a coffee. 3 SECOND RULE! Don't beeline though, walk in, size up the place, then turn to the set, all in 3 seconds. If they ask the identity of the girls, listen to them describe them, and then ask how they know them. school? what school u go to...
Questions: What do I do after the opener? another opener felt pretty awkward. They still didn't add me to their little group after the first. I need to work on my energy. They all knew each other before, and they kinda alienated me.

There were a few more when I hung out with my friends today, im just too lazy to write about them. They all seem so end after the opener.

Field Report: 01/22/08

Attempt 1:
Dunkin donuts
3 set
1st time ever using Who lies more opener
The three girls saw me before I went in. I came in, then walked to the girls, looked at the least attractive of the bunch and asked, “Quick question: who lies more, guys or girls?” Immediately the three girls said, “girls”. I then said “well, I was having a little debate with my friend on the bus, and he thought guys, but the way I see it, it's not a matter of who lies more, it's about what they lie about. Guys lie about bigger things... I mean girls... I mean guys lie about smaller things, like 'yeah, you look good in that dress' but girls lie about smaller... I mean bigger things, like 'It's your baby'” the girls then laughed, and looked at each other like wtf, and one called up a friend and asked where he or she was. The whole while I remained standing *MISTAKE* and it felt kind of awkward right away. I then counted them up, as if adding them to my current tally, and said thx, n bought myself a coffee. I then came back, noticed one of them had a X High school sweatshirt. I said “X, huh? who goes there?” And she says her cousins, I ask what grade she tells me sophomore and junior. I then say “yeah, pretty much all my best friends go there. You INSERT NAME HERE?”. “oh...” Then It just died down, I took a seat near them and called up a friend, then called my ride to see when he was getting here. Took out my laptop (its mandatory for school, I'd look like a dork if I always carried it around lol) and typed this up, then did some hw.
Looking back at it, I stuttered on the Who lies more opener, and I didn't give a time constraint. They just answered quick, and it was back to me. Then on my reply, I probably came out as try-hard, as I stayed standing, and stuttered. One of the girls got on the phone just after, which I took as a neg.

Attempt 2:
Just outside 7-11, coming home from school/Dunkin donuts, met up with a friend who's still in 8th grade (I'm a sophomore). There's two girls, a 7 and a 2, lol, and out of random, as my friends still talking to me, I approach and ask them “Hey, quick question: who lies more, guys or girls?” The girls seemed more cool about it than the previous set, and one answered guys, the other said girls, and a third friend came in and hey started talking about it. I interrupted saying: “Well the way I see it, guys lie about little things, and girls lie about big things.” They looked at me and listened attentively, major change from the previous set. I didn't stutter, and well, I felt pretty damn alpha as a result. But then again (as I later found out) they were still in middle school. Then they saw my neighbor, and the “practice target” said, oh it's the president! (He was the class president). Thing is, she had food in her mouth, so I took this opportunity to neg her by making fun of her voice lol. Then when she finally spoke correctly, I said oh, yeah he's my neighbor, and he entered the set. Then they said bye, they had to leave, turned around, and left. Colddddd
Yeah. I'm guessing my neighbor isn't really liked much in his school, cause the second he got in, they were scared off.

Alrighty, Please help me out here.

Sounds like most of your sets are hooking and starting to show Interest. You need to move to A2 of the Attraction Phase. This starts after you've reached the hook point and you say, "So, how does everyone know each other?" You tell your DHV stories to hit the attraction switches: "Preselection, Leader of Men, Proctector of Loved Ones, Non-Neediness" to name a few and at the same time not getting along with your target. You do this by using "negs" stuff like, "Where's your off button" or "You're pretty tall what are those, I like tall girls, what are those 2 or 3 inch heels?" As you see IOIs (Indicators of Interest) from your target you move to A3 where you can finally show interest back.

You are doing it right just now bridge to A2 Female to Male Attraction.

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Been around the world twice, Talked to everyone once...

I wouldn't call these 'failures' because when you're just starting off, openers are all you should be practicing anyway and what happens next isn't really important. If you go out with the objective of opening and you open some sets, you've achieved your objective for the mission and can feel good about it. Your objective at this early stage is to get into the swing of opening and build your confidence at that part, once that comes naturally you can start concentrating on raising the bar and moving deeper into the A stages.

For now, I would get into the habit of dreaming up situational openers on the spot if you can, just use the canned openers to fall back on if you can't think of anyone else. Canned openers from the bestselling books are risky because they might get you rumbled, so I'd only use them as a last resort if nothing else springs to mind.

Summary:

1st preference - situational opener made up on the spot
2nd preference - canned opener that you prepared earlier
3rd preference - canned opener that you read online somewhere
4th preference - canned opener from the bestselling books

Practice dreaming up situational openers every time you see a girl in the street or anywhere else, even if she is out of range or if you don't speak to her. You'll be amazed how quickly your mind becomes good at it! Your brain is like a muscle that gets stronger the more you exercise it.

great stuff!
Thanks guys, Yeah I'm just realizing the whole PUA deal. Maybe I'm just expecting results too fast instead of just keeping with it.

And uhh, Just give me an idea to start off some situational openers?
Like if u wer in the situation, walk into some coffee shop and u see a table with a bunch of HB's, how would you open?
Thx, this is so i cn jumpstart my brain into thinking these situational openers up.
And assume the target is bitchy, lol.
Thx

Depends what clothes or jewelry they're wearing, what they're holding in their hands, what they're doing, what they're talking about, etc.

Off the top of my head, if they have a closed cup of coffee in their hands you could say "Oh that looks like nice coffee." They'll inevitably ask how you could know that when you can't see into the cup, and you take it from there.

I sat down one day and dreamed up a load of canned openers for each item of ladies' clothing that I could think of.