Negotiating the Religion Hurdle..?



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 5:37 am 
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As I'm sure we've all noticed (particularly those who live in the Southern US), the majority of 9s/10s are fairly religious, primarily of the Christian variety. These are all the blonde, blue eyed runners/fitness junkies.I'm agnostic but tolerant and would be fine..unless she was a snake-handler or devil worshiper or something. lol

The problem obviously is they won't even give you a chance, especially online. They're nice enough to say 'no thanks I only date ___ men'. They'll even reply again if you ask a fairly harmless followup Q. But that's as far as it goes.

Has anyone been able to crack this code?

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 6:17 am 
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I had the same problem with a incredibly hot and gorgeous girl from Sri Lanka. She and her family where very religious. So she was not allowed to have a boyfriend. So there was no way...


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 2:35 am 
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are you that Paramount guy?


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:47 am 
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Me? I don't follow.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 2:21 am 
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yea. The ole Paramount21. Makes every guy want to blow their brains out so maybe he will be the last man left. talks 9/10's, talks religion, talks fitness girls, talks the south, talks about 9's and 10's not giving him a chance.

I can crack the code though.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 2:56 am 
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I dated an ultra religious HB10 once. I won't say which religion in order to be somewhat universal with my insight.

If you want to crack this barrier, you must be open to her beliefs. Religion doesn't always have to be a cockblock.
Take a genuine interest and curiosity in her belief system and lifestyle. Try to learn about it and respect it. She probably likes talking about her religion, so let her talk about it and ask questions. Learn something. Do some research your own if talking online. Ask her if she celebrates a certain holiday in her religion. (ex: to HBIndian: "Oh last year I did holi for the first time with my Indian buddies. It's like better than paintball! Are you into yoga at all?")

Eventually, celebrate some of her religious holidays with her. Try fasting a day on Ramadan with HBIranian. These can count as comfort building dates. Go to church with her.

Eventually, you want her to make an exception for you, and date you despite you being a different religion. She'll see your investment, committment, and interest in her and her religion. She'll fantasize about converting you, but don't let her. Avoid that topic. She'll make you the one exception and enter a relationship with you if you're patient.

If some part of her religious beliefs forbid her from fornication, then you've got to practice intense self control. Usually you can make out with her with clothes on, and that's as far as she'd be willing to go the first few times.

Eventually her biological drives will kick in, and shut off her religious inhibitions. She is a physical creature after all just like you and I, and she'll want to experience that pleasurable euphoria or coitus, at least once, and you'll be the special guy she chooses. Never rush it and respect her comfort levels.

Just don't hurt her. You could fuck up her life.
Go monogamous while dating HBReligious to avoid feeling like a Dbag. And try to alleviate her sexual guilt if you break up, especially if you're her first. Otherwise she may not date for a long long time and be scarred because she believes she has sinned. Remind her that god wants us all to enjoy one another and that there are worse crimes in the universe than fornication.

Good luck.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:17 am 
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Sounds solid F.B. Thanks!

I'm not your P.21 Wingintyme, but it is an endemic issue here for non-conformists in the dirty S. ...more likely we'll all blow our brains out, or masturbate to death! lol

If you really have some knowledge tho, put it down bro!


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 1:33 pm 
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cracking the code for you is learning some common sense. The majority of skinny blonde blue eyed runners in the south do not practice religion. Maybe 50% do. But, that 50% goes for anyone, even fat middle aged men. And even if they practice religion, I'm not sure how that's a hurdle. That might work to a man's benefit.

Cracking the code for you would also be to stop worrying about 9/10 blond blue eyed runners. You seem like a real weird dude. You aren't getting a 9 blonde blue eyed runner especially on a dating website. Start looking at the 6 range, a bit over weight, and forget hair and eye color.


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You don't know me at all...That really pretty rude Yo you ask wierd questions and you have no answers so you try to insult me.? I do fine in the 7 range man.

SOD OFF!


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Look bro, it's not rocket surgery. If you want girls who simply MUST be with a relgious man, then put "christian" in your profile instead of athiest or agnostic or whatever. Nobody will discriminate against you for being a christian because all the religo's need to know is you believe in god, and the athiest girls don't care either way.

The only problem with it is if these girls are actually extremely religious. You might be able to get away with telling half the girls that you believe in God and the bible but you don't go to church often. But the other half will expect you to go to church with them every sunday and recite the Lord's prayer before supper. In that instance, you may have lied your way into her pants, but you also will be forced to live the lie and do things that you don't really want.

And I wouldn't base anything off of what online girls say or do. Online dating is a joke nowadays anyway.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:39 pm 
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That's evil and genius! Honestly I'd never of thought of that.
I don't know that its worth going that far, but props on the outside the box thinking.

They prolly are very religious if they won't date outside of the tribe tho, and no ass is worth putting that much time into lying...I think that'd do some damage to yourself as well as to her.

Its not "all" HBs...but honestly pretty much all the absolute cream of the crop that are religious here. Its not a delusion, I didn't grow up here and it wasn't the same where I'm from.
Anyways, I'll go the long way around and try out FB's advice.

Thanks!


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:49 am 
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Look bro, it's not rocket surgery. If you want girls who simply MUST be with a relgious man, then put "christian" in your profile instead of athiest or agnostic or whatever. Nobody will discriminate against you for being a christian because all the religo's need to know is you believe in god, and the athiest girls don't care either way.

The only problem with it is if these girls are actually extremely religious. You might be able to get away with telling half the girls that you believe in God and the bible but you don't go to church often. But the other half will expect you to go to church with them every sunday and recite the Lord's prayer before supper. In that instance, you may have lied your way into her pants, but you also will be forced to live the lie and do things that you don't really want.

And I wouldn't base anything off of what online girls say or do. Online dating is a joke nowadays anyway.
Im gonna have to agree with the Ninja on this one. I'll take it one step further. Saying you were raised christian is like being jewish right? At best its not an all out lie. So say: "I was raised _____ and I really do believe in God but my walk with him just hasnt been that strong lately" If I know one thing about christians its that they love to "save" some one. Plus shes required by christian law to invite you to all church events. Almost too easy if you don't mind the lies.

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I met this latina at work once, huge tits. We started talking and I knew ahead of time she was religious, but I could tell she was a freak. Anyway, she invited me to church one day and I figured I'd go just to get on her good side. First of all, the service was in spanish. And it was broadcast of a PA with a shitty speaker system. Then they called me up to the front and had me like bow and lay down on the alter or whatever, and all these people were laying there next to me crying and convulsing and pretending to be possessed by the Lord. It was so fricking awkward. All I ever ended up getting was a make out session from that girl. I just couldn't bring myself to endure that kind of stuff ever again.

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I met this latina at work once, huge tits. We started talking and I knew ahead of time she was religious, but I could tell she was a freak. Anyway, she invited me to church one day and I figured I'd go just to get on her good side. First of all, the service was in spanish. And it was broadcast of a PA with a shitty speaker system. Then they called me up to the front and had me like bow and lay down on the alter or whatever, and all these people were laying there next to me crying and convulsing and pretending to be possessed by the Lord. It was so fricking awkward. All I ever ended up getting was a make out session from that girl. I just couldn't bring myself to endure that kind of stuff ever again.

Holy shit dude! And you didnt invite me to this why? I think at that point I would have fucked every chick in the place out of spite!

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:59 pm 
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I disagree with PUAninja here. Is it alpha to lie and misrepresent yourself? That's just another form of faking it till you make it. In this case, you're not going to make it unless you are religious.

Rather than having to explain how I was full of shit at the beginning by claiming to be religious when I am not, I go with agnostic and play the I don't know card. That is not a lie, if you're agnostic, it really means you don't know what the fuck you are. You haven't invested time and energy to determine your faith, or to determine you are athiest.

You CAN use this position to intrigue them. When you get rejected by one saying she only dates X men, my response would be one that indicates that you wonder exactly what faith teaches people to be closed minded and judgmental without knowing anything about someone else. From there, if you get a response, it means she's willing to invest the time to explain her faith to you, which gets your foot in the door to really explore her mind and her faith, while giving her the same opportunity. When I have had success with women like this, you typically have to let them come to you, and it can take a fair amount of time. It worked best to me to be open to hearing her belief systems, and they often are willing to do the point-counterpoint thing with you when you explain why their belief system may not work for you. As long as they know you are enjoying the interaction, sooner or later they can find that they also like the debate, they like that you don't just cave to them, and from their your value becomes established.

The best part is if you do end up in some sort of a relationship, you never get called out on lying from the get go.


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