Hey guys!
I had a sticky situation several nights ago with this HB7.
I live with a group of 5 others kids doing community service immediately after i finished high school (it's common in my country, and we're all graduates who want to contribute, not felons or anything creepy like that).
Anyways, the group that is going to replace us next year came over for a briefing and this one hb7 started giving me mass IOIs and I instantaneously went into my game and really built attraction and comfort with her. During the day she told she smoked weed and I suggested that tonight (we were planning to go out) we sneak away to a dark alley and roll the j. Anyways the IOIs were building and I constantly made it look like I'm rewarding her by kino and made her chase me and all the other push pulls and whatever. For instance one time I just put my hand on her waste not even as kino just trying to direct her somewhere and she immediately hugged me real tight with both hands and layer her head on my should with eyes closed and a happy smile.
So after we went to a pub and had a few drinks b(with both our groups) she said she needs to smoke and asked me to escort her (like I told her to say by text) we went outside and suddenly ALL THE IOIS WERE GONE, except for passive IOIs) and I have no idea whatsoever. We then rolled the joint and she actually sat a little distance for some reason but I figured that she just put the hash in the middle so she'll illuminate it while u heat it up and roll. In any case after I rolled the j I put my arm around her and pulled her towards me and she complied didn't do it as enthusiastically as always and then I said fuck it and started playing ththej pulling her hair and then she giggled but complied and then I did a tiny push then I pulled her hair abut and petted her thigh and went in for a kiss and she giggled and pulled back and gave the classic "it's not appropriate..." and she said because she doesn't want to look like a slut infrint of the group she's gonna live with for a year since she doesn't know them yet.
Then boohoo my sticking point instead of backing up I did the worst thing and tried too many times to re-kiss her which completely obliterated the remaining IOIs though we still went back hugging and me playing with her hair.


The thing is that I'm new to the game but have always been a kind of a strong natural ( horrible technique, real good looks and confidence and humor and I'm cool). I know they were real massive IOIs and for some reason I ducked it up.
I'm trying to learn from it (I don't see myself hooking up with her anytime soon), but I sincerely don't see what went wrong and I really need to learn from that. What do you guys think?

*sorry for explicit drug references

Like you said, you just kept pestering her with the kiss. You were definitely in. Back off a little next time them advance after some time. Some girls realize they let their defenses down when they were with a guy and focus on that next time they interact. Probably what happened to you and why the ioi's didn't feel like they were coming as often.

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Yeah that indeed killed it off completely... I also learned how to deal with it (hopefully). Well the thing I'm interested in is if the decline of active IOIs prior to kiss and after we went to the alley were because something happened or because of ASD?

My question is this: is ASD able to lower the IOIs given the circumstances above or is it really diminished attraction? Remember I didn't do anything bad before the IOIs started disappearing.

ASD is lowering ioi's. Along with strong LMR, limiting ioi's and being conscious of not doing them is something women focus on I am sure. You think we are the only gender that looks into the psychology of one another and what physical actions set off a flirting vibe?

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Ugh, classic mistake man. Don't worry we've all made it.

Anyway, as above here's what you did wrong, she gave you a clear red light and you tried to plow through it. That's the definition of creepy and desperate. She even told you why (always assume they are telling the truth, always. Then if you find out she's lying later, insta-dump. Assume honesty, never tolerate dishonesty, not even a little bit). Sit back, look her in the eye like you want her, have a cheeky smile and say "just don't make me wait too long." Or something that tells her you respect her boundaries but unashamedly want her.

Your move then is to disengage a bit from her and try mixing it up with other members of her group. Be really friendly and cool. They like you and respect you and you are in, without a doubt.

Learn to pay attention man, girls will tell you what you need to do without ever saying it. You just have to pay attention and actually listen. Get out of your head and into hers.

Guys situation SALVAGED!

I just waited until today and I texted her with a cocky funny neg and then we started chatting and showed a lot of IOI's over the SMS (saying omggggggg instead of omg and responding immediately, for instance). Then I turned the whole ploughing thing in a role reversal way like she was abusing me (jokingly) and she jumped through that hoop and actually sincerely apologized...
Anyways we also scheduled a date and its all real smooth.

I think I learned from that. Next time you'll hear about this story it'll be in the lay reports