For those of you who've read my previous posts, this is my final question... I promise... I just need some final advice going into this.

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Me and my ex-girlfriend broke up 5 weeks ago. She had started acting weird and when I confronted her, she said things felt different, things had changed. I said, "Maybe we should take a break." She agreed. We didn’t talk much and then I left.

One week after the breakup, I texted her and said we should meet and catch up. She made up some excuses for why she couldn’t, so I left it at that.

4 weeks after the breakup – on the advice of the book the Ex2 System – I ended up texting her this casual message.

"Hey I worked in Parliament today for CBC, reminded me of you and when we went on that tour haha. How's your summer going?"

She responded within an hour with this: "No way! That's so cool, what were you doing there? My summer has been great. Reid moved out the other day, so that really sucks. How's your summer?"

As we texted a bit back and forth casually, I followed the Ex2 System and created a fake girl's Facebook profile and getting her to post on my wall. I found a legitimate-looking picture of a girl that is a big hotter than my ex. I posted on my wall as her, saying "You're too funny. Let's hang out again this Sunday."

I then took a picture of myself – which my ex-girlfriend had taken of me and posted on her FB profile – and made it my display pic. She'd receive a FB notification of this, and come to my profile. She would definitely look at my profile since I had deactivated my FB page for most of our relationship and after we broke up. She'd want to check my page out and see what I was up to.

Then, I texted her and asked if she wanted to meet for a drink. She wasn’t responding for a while, so I sent another text saying, "I realize us breaking up was for the best but I feel like we didn't have an open discussion about it. I want a better understanding of where things went wrong. I'm starting to see someone new so I want to learn and not make the same mistakes. So let's talk in person or on the phone at the very least. We said we'd talk about it at some point but haven't."

I thought she'd say let's talk on the phone but she responded with "I know, and I'm sorry. I have terrible communication skills. That's fine though, let's meet up this week."

So my question is: how do I approach meeting up with her? Do I meet up with her, play hard to get, pretend like I’m completely over it and talk about what went wrong? Or do I show up, be friendly, hit on her slightly, avoid talking about the relationship, and then possibly make a move? Let me know what you think.

You've really made a fake facebook profile ? I mean really ? And you told her that you basically want advice of what to work on in your new relationship, which is non-existent ?

Mate I don't wanna sound harsh but you are fucked from the get go.

She is going to expect a friendly conversation (if she doesn't flake) thats all. I mean you tell her that you have a girl going on for you and you are planning to make a move on her ? If she's a decent girl you have no chance.

My advice for you: get rid of your EX2 System book, because it's pure bullshit.

Not "new relationship." I'm just starting to date someone new. Big difference. I can make a move on anyone I want, I'm not committed to anyone. Why would she take time out of her day to meet up with me when I gave her the option to just speak with me on the phone? She could have ignored my text or taken the easier option of explaining things on the phone. But she's going take time to get ready and meet me out. That tell me something.

I've just been following the book's advice, and it's working so far. 3 weeks ago, she brushed me off.

Fine, since you are not listening I wish you good luck when meeting her.

So you think I should just go and have a conversation about what went wrong in our relationship then? And then walk away, leaving it at that?

NO! I'm not really sure what the deal is with the "system" you're following, but I'd play it very casual. Go have fun. DON'T bring up any of the ex-relationship issues unless she does. Even then, apologize for all the dumb-guy things you did and get back to better conversation topics. Talk about all the fun things you've done lately. Be flirty and playful. Tell funny stories about dating. Ask about her sex life (tease her about whatever her response is).

The bottom line is that you want to show her you that you are a whole new person who's happier, more confident, and higher value (fake it until you make it). Then you want her to enjoy being around that new person. Make sure she has a good time.

-Wolf

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The above advice is really what you need to follow. Why dredge up the past and ask her what went wrong. This will get her thinking about all the bad things about your relationship. This is not good. Just be casual and fun. This will be tough since I'm guessing all you have done is think about this girl....this again is not good. Go to the meeting like you have nothing to lose, because really you don't you two have already broke up and you have gone to extreme lengths to just meet up. GOOD LUCK

Yes, perfect. That's exactly what I was thinking before posting but I wasn't sure since the whole point of meeting up was for us to talk about the relationship. But I guess I'll only get into it if she brings it up. I'll just focus on being the attractive guy I was when we first met. Thanks.

Casual and fun is definitely the way to go, I agree. It will be tough but I think I can pull it off. I definitely have nothing to lose. If only she knew the extreme lengths I've gone to. It's actually laughable. This will be interesting - a learning experience at the very least. I have a date on Sunday and it looks like I might be meeting with her on Saturday. It's too bad it's not the other way around. Going on a date, getting in the groove of things again, and banging some other chick would definitely do me good before the meetup. Thanks for the advice guys.

We met up yesterday for a few drinks. We talked and caught up. I acted happy and cheerful and didn't bring up the relationship. We paid for our drinks and we took a walk around the block. I made a move on her and we started making out. She was into it but then she pulled away.

I said, "Let's go back to my place." She refused and said, "I thought we were meeting to talk." I kept trying to pull her back and walk with me. She said she was leaving and going to take a bus home. But then when I crossed the street to leave her, she followed me. We ended up walking towards my house. We made it half way there. We kept making out, she'd pull away, make out more, pull away, etc. She was being difficult, so we eventually sat down in the park to talk about what went wrong.

She told me it was because when I was drunk one night at her party, I hit on and got another girl's number. I hardly remember it, it was just a drunken mistake. I didn't think she noticed but she did. Her friends also talked to her about it. She said that killed her attraction for me. She said, "I thought you were a nice guy who really liked me." She said she was still very attracted to me physically, but she was turned off of my personality after that. She never brought it up at the time because she wasn't even sure if we were exclusive since we had never talked about it. My understanding was that we were.

As we talked, we made out more and I even pulled down her shirt, sucked on her tits and fingered her. As I started to finger her, she seemed really into it but then stopped me and said she needed to go. As she wanted to leave, I held her there and kept trying to convince her to come back to my place. Looking back now, it was kind of pathetic. We talked more about how I've been dating other people but I'm not committed to anyone. She said she isn't seeing anyone but is happy to be single.

When I finally let her go and she walked and waited for the bus, I tried to catch up with her again. She saw me coming and just started walking away from me, so I gave up and went home.

I'm upset about it. I still want things to work out with her. It pisses me off that one little mistake ruined everything. She's a great girl and I really do like her. I thought about calling her or messaging her, and trying to work things out. Do you think I have a chance? Why wouldn't she just talk to me on the phone, or completely reject me when I made a move in person, if she is completely over me? I feel like there's something still there. I'm not used to this type of situation. Girls have left me in the past for acting "beta." This time, one stupid event ruined everything and I'm almost tempted to act beta and explain my feelings for her in attempt to get her back.

First of all, while this EX2 System book may have gotten you what you think you wanted, I, like the others, would have to question if it's the healthiest approach.

You call creating a fake facebook profile laughable. And it is, but it's more than that, it's pathetic. Ask yourself how much better this meet up could have gone if you'd actually have invested that much effort in meeting someone new, dating her, and adding her to your fb profile, basically accomplishing the exact same thing, except in real life. That I would consider healthy.

It sounds to me like you did well when you actually did meet, except that because you were needy and outcome dependent with her, you've blown it. Consider this: If you really had another girl you were thinking of seeing and wanted to actually make it work, or at least not fuck it up the same way, chances are good that you are high value, and you don't need her to come back to your place. Instead, you have some fun, remind her you're a great guy.

In a nutshell, if you weren't wasting time trying to get her back, you might have been in a position to tell her truthfully that you are a nice guy and are sorry that you did something stupid when you were drunk and that messed up a really good thing. Then you could have left it at that and started dating the new chick, who actually exists.

Take the good advice guys have given you here. We're not out to get ya man, we're giving it to you straight with the intent to help you. Be high value, and you are high value.

All this said, thanks for sharing the outcome. Too often advice here is given and no conclusion is posted.