Hey guys, so straight into it. I can make girls fall for me with my inner game, outer appearance, personality, laid back but dominant demeanor but have one issue....I don't escalate when t is clearly time. I have been trying to throw some physical stuff in here and there (touch on upper arm, etc) but a lot of times I recognize it is time for it, but don't do it. I guess it is something where as until I break through my wall of not doing it, and finally seeing its effect, I will keep pausing.

I can chat up any girl, have a lot of natural confidence and have a good sense of humor. I don't get needy with women because I naturally am not. Relationships actually annoy me because I love to do whatever I want, whenever I want and relationships always effect that.

I have focused mainly on the escalation posts here but still need some direct help.

Like at my work, two girls who work on the front end of my store within clear view for both of our shifts, I always catch smiling at me and we lock eyes, I give a cheeky smile and hold until she looks away first. Now what..and yes I talk to both of them in good fluid convo.

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Escalate from the outset. Touch them with the opener, stand right next to them.

YouTube Liam McRae rapid escalation. Thank me later.

Part way through it yesterday. Will watch rest today. Believe I am going to enjoy it. I like where he says a positive mindset is that women like being touched quickly by guys they like.

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Do you have a link for that particular video ? the liam macrae escalation??

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Here is your answer. Break out of that comfort zone bro. Try it and see what happens. Train your brain to know that you won't die if you touch a girl.

^This isn't exactly pick up is it?

You claim you can do this and you can do that in terms of pick up and then you bring up 'eye contact' with people at your work and how you cannot bring this situation further?

Escalating does not occur in a vacuum. Escalating is a part of pick up. Opening is a part of pick up. The sooner you accept you know jack shit about PU and start researching and practicing the process, the sooner you will lose your virginity. This forum is filled with great info . . . do your research. Figure out:

1. Open.
2. Routine.
3. Close.

Strategize. Practice. Do it. Leave those poor girls who work at the front alone . . .until you figure this shit out.

Honestly, I am more or less here for inner game and escalating tips. I like gettig ideas for mindsets off of here.
I assume you mean 'virginity,' as in pu virginity. Because I am far from a virgin. I encounter massive amounts of ioi's everyday, from multiple women.i have women that come up to me telling me how attractive I am. It is very kind of them. I keep in check though.

So, I have been given all of the stuff I believe pua's try to overcompensate for with a lot of these routines. But I cannot escalate as I'd like.

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You are in an anonymous PU forum. Nobody cares if you are a virgin or not. The fact that you are trying to PROVE to yourself to a group of non-caring strangers says a lot. Whether women come up to you and tell you you are hot, you are a pig, or you are an idiot, has NOTHING to do with your PU abilities. This is going to be tough. . . it's difficult for any man to accept that he sucks at anything but hey, you do suck at this. Accept this. Start from pick up 101. And improve. Begin with openers and start opening WOMEN instead of standing there like an idiot and getting giddy with smiles from coworkers.

I think you missed the part from my original post that I can start a convo, very nice and fluid, grab her attention, keep it from getting dry. I can get them into me, bud. I am telling you. I am a good flirt. Bit the escalation and close is where I can brush up.

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What I have been keeping in my head lately is 'no fear.' Harping on the fact that there really is no such thing as fear. It is an illogical emotion. It comes from harping on the par or predicting future occurrences. Live for now, and there really is no fear. And the fact that anything you do, will probably mean nothing in 10 years. Intimidated by something? Do it! So soon you will not even remember why you were worried.

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Do something simple like showing them a stupid trick with a pencil or cards or coins. Once you have at least talked to them enough to know their names, come up to them again sometime and just right of the bat be like "Hey, check this out..." and go right into the trick.

After you do it she'll laugh or smile, then tell her to hold the cards/pencil/coins or whatever. As she starts to hold her hand out be like "Wait a minute.." then kind of grab her hand and ask her if she believes in palm reading. She'll be curious, doesn't really matter what she says. Then go into the palm reading bit where you tell her that this line means this, this one means that, and....uh oh, this one means she's a retard. Then she'll start laughing, hit you or whatever, and boom, you've already done kino escalation.

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I feel like it is an obvious tactic off the bat. If the girl has half a brain cell. Any great ways to do so without something so obvious? I do a lot of high-fiving and small fist bumps? Just some simple, low-key physical initiating. In my head, they are at least aware that I touch. And in another setting, escalating the touching would not be completely out of the blue.

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Somebody correct me if I'm wrong here, but I don't think that it really needs to be subtle or smooth. I mean, sure those techniques probably exist, but girls love being flirted with. The very fact that you can open up and be confident enough to flirt is usually enough to snag a girl and they really won't even care if you're being completely obvious. In any case, I think you're missing the point. The point is that you escalate with KINO. You do it flirtatiously, confidently, and you make it fun. Light high fives and fist bumps are all great, but you need much more than that.

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I don't know much of how you flirt with girls ... but I will assume since I lack information on how you game.

My guess is that you are "flirting" in a Friend to Friend interaction with the girl ... my suggestion is to go "Man to Woman".

The difference between "Friend to Friend" and "Man to woman" are:
1) Friend to Friend interaction is that you are not playing to win ... but, you are playing not to lose. You don't want to go physical on the girl because you are contempt that the interaction is going well. You don't want to go physical because you are afraid that you won't get what you want ... this is needy by the way :p ... but I am only assuming because the symptoms you describe is needy :p ... teheheh ... I know I am an ass hole ^_^.
- You lack intention ... you lack masculine polarity ... you lack clarity of intent.

2) Man to woman interaction is when you go physical immediately, close proximity, challenging and commanding presence ... the girls know what is going down if they spend any more time with you.
- You can go physical and even over calibrate because you don't care if YOU will get them or not!
- You are there to play to win ... again if you really are not needy you wouldn't care if you get the girl or not.

This transitioning from "Friend to Friend" to "Man to Woman" can be tough to do and cultivate ... but if you really want to over come your sticking points ... you'll have to put the time, effort, and experience some pain in cultivating this skill ^_^.

*It's really fun! Girls love it when you express your intention immediately.
- You will get some girls rejecting you ... but, at least you save time from wasting your time ^_^!

Good Luck sir!