I hate hearing this advice haha. And I know it seems like I'm looking for excuses, but isn't your situation different? You had to go separate ways from this girl no matter what. She was leaving for the summer, and you were no longer in the same city. I would think it'd be easier to move on when the girl is physically away from you and you have no choice but to leave her.

My ex lives very close to me and I feel like I need to put in my all now so that's it. Your girl was eventually going to return after the summer, right? There's some more hope there then what I have.

Doesn't her response tell you something though? Or am I just being hopeful and she's jut simply being friendly? I've had ex's in the past who have simply ignored my post-breakup texts or gave me very short responses. She was asking a lot of questions back and wondering about me.

Look her response doesn't mean anything. Girls are naturally nice and talkative. You two at one time dated so of course she likes you at least in some way so she will almost certainly respond. As far as no contact goes even if you live close I would stay the course. Stop initiating, if you see he out keep the convo short and light, and make sure you are the one to end the conversation. The story I told about the college girl happened somewhat a long time ago and I have had many relationships since. I have tried both ways after a break up and no contact like a lot of other posters here have said is the only thing that works. I know it sounds counterproductive to do nothing especially since you very much want to do something anything to get this girl back, but chasing her will not work, telling her you want to be friends will not work, and honestly no contact will probably not work, but its your best bet at least in my opinion.

I know what you're getting at and maybe I'm just trying to see the light, but have you read the Ex2 System? I'm not saying it's guaranteed to work, but even the author says you can contact her in 3-4 weeks. And her response from 1 week after we broke up was much more cold than the most recent ones. Here's her latest reponse:

"Oh wow, that's really neat! And you must be so excited about graduating haha. We haven't found a roommate yet, but reid knows someone who's interested."

I know she's not giving blatant IOIs or anything but I've already broken no contact and come this far. I might as well just see if she wants to meet up for coffee or a drink and catch up more. The website PUA Training had a article giving the same advice. In fact, the article said do it after 2 weeks. If she says she doesn't want to meet up, I'll just explain that "I realize now that us breaking up was for the best. It'd be a shame to throw away our friendship though. We should could just work on being friends again."

Then when we meet up, I'll re-attract her and eventually make a move. I'd rather say I tried and then completely move on knowing I no longer have a shot.

I'm also tempted to get answers out of her. We didn't communicate at the end of our relationship so I don't really know why things fell apart. I was going to push for that at the very end.

It seems like you are convinced that texting and meeting up is the answer and thats fine, maybe it will work but it almost never does. I have not read any books or anything like that and am by no means a PUA but have had many relationships and I like to think I have learned something from everyone. With that I'm going to tell you DON'T ask What went wrong in your relationship, in fact don't bring anything about your relationship up. If you did it will show neediness and make her think you are not over her, this is not attractive. Let us know how it turns out and good luck.

Thank you. I'm not convinced. I just feel like it's what I need to do at this point. I've already contacted her so much, I feel like I might as well plough through and if I fail, I can then truly move on and focus on getting healthier, stronger, and meeting new women. Maybe this will be one of my learning experiences. Maybe next time, I'll move on right out of the gate and continuously go no contact. We'll see.

I definitely won't ask what's wrong. My plan was to play it very cool, appear happy and cheerful. My main goal is getting her really attracted to me again, and when I feel like the time is right, try to make a move. I'll only bring up the relationship if she refuses to meet up with me and I know I don't have a chance left.

How old are you by the way? Just wondering. I never know who I'm talking to on here haha. I'm 22. Still lots for me to learn.

I was 22 when a had a few situations like this, trust me break ups get way easier as you realize another girl is right around the corner. I'm 32 now and still trying to figure it all out. Good luck with your all or nothing play. Again I hope it works out. Any advice on here is just from random strangers that don't know the situation as well as you. Go with your gut and if it doesn't work out, like you said its a learning experience.

you won't get her back no matter what you do.
the best way out of this situation is not to get into this situation.

OK so I have an update for everyone. I ended up following the Ex2 System's advice of making a fake girl's Facebook profile and posting on my wall. I found a legitimate-looking picture of a girl that is a big hotter than my ex. I posted on my wall as her, saying "You're too funny. Let's hang out again this Sunday." I then took a picture of myself that my ex-girlfriend had taken of me from her FB profile and made it my display pic. She's get a notification of that, and that draw her to my profile. She's definitely look at my profile since I had deactivated my FB page for most of our relationship and even after we broke up. She's want to check it out. I also got the fake hot girl to like and comment on my photo, saying "Haha you always look like you're up to no good "

I did all this after texting her, seeing if she wanted to meet up. She didn't respond for a while, and then I sent another text saying, "I realize us breaking up was for the best but I feel like we didn't have an open discussion about it. I want a better understanding of where things went wrong. I'm starting to see someone new so I want to learn and not make the same mistakes. So let's talk in person or on the phone at the very least. We said we'd talk about it at some point but haven't."

I thought she's say let's talk on the phone but she responded with "I know, and I'm sorry. I have terrible communication skills. That's fine though, let's meet up this week."

How do I approach meeting up with her? Do I go into the meetup and be friendly and game her slightly without bringing up the relationship and possibly even end up making move; or do I go in, play hard to get, pretend like I'm over it, want answers from her about our relationship, and tell her I just want be friends, thinking I might be able to get her back down the road as I will see her at upcoming parties?

Fake facebook profile, posts, etc. seems crazy. Judging by her response and especially her saying "that's fine, terrible communication skills" does not bode well. I'm still not sure why you brought up the old relationship and you saying that you wanted to know what went wrong REEKS of neediness. On top of this if she asks about the new girl like where you met her, what's she studying, where's she from you have to lie, which is never a good idea. I guess just try to steer the conversation in a different direction? When you meet just don't break down and confess your undying love for her. Judging from what you have done and posted this seems like a real possibility. All the same good luck and let us know how the meet up works out...if this works I will have to rethink much of what I have done in the past:)

Thanks. I won't break down. I know it may seem like I could because of the desperation in my posts but I'm just an intense guy and know that in person it would backfire. I followed through with the breakup calmly and I think even the texts I sent don't demonstrate that I'm going through as bad of a time as I actually am. I don't think asking about the relationship is needy. She knows I the type of person that likes to get better (perfectionist). I think bringing up someone else has fucked wit her emotions a bit, especially if she's been alone since our break, causing her to want to meet up instead of talk on the phone. I thought she was going to suggest the latter, if at all. Why would she want to meet up if she's not considering me just a little?

We won't be meeting up until sometime next week. I might push it to the end of the week so I can get my shit together and put together a plan. What's your opinion on how I approac the meet? I was thinking playing it cool, being cheerful and happy, and acting like friends while slightly gaming her. Or I go in still cheerful and happy, end up talking about the relationship, say we should be friends, walk away making her wonder, and then see her at a party in a month's time?

I could always go with the first, depending on how it's going make a move, laugh it off if she rejects like I really don't care, and still see her at the party in 4 weeks.

I guess the game plan is up to me and I can calibrate according to how she's responding, but I'd stil like some advice.

I don't understand why you would visit a forum hoping for advice on what to do to win your ex-girlfriend back if you're going to completely disregard the advice given to you.

If you don't wish to follow our advice, that's fine.

You have clearly no intention of listening to anyone else, you just want validation that contacting her is a good idea. It isn't, but you are clearly not prepared to listen to anything else.

You: "Hey, I need some advice on how to win my ex back"
Us: "Solid advice on no-contact, moving on"
You: "Yeah yeah, whatever... Listen do you think I should do this?"
Us: "No, that will not work"
You: "I hear you... So when I do it, how should I act/what should I say?"
Us: "Don't do anything, move on and stay with no contact"
You: "You're right, you make perfect sense... I'm going to see her this week etc..."

You need to move on, stay with no contact and game other girls. You're obsessing over this girl, to the point of making fake Facebook profiles to manipulate her. That's creepy. In addition to this, you're investing all this emotional energy and physical effort to get this girl back, if an absolute miracle happens and you SOMEHOW defy the heaviest odds in the universe and win her back, do you think it could possibly ever live up to the image and projection you have in your mind now?

Do you love this girl? Or do you love the idea of this girl?

Also about this "ex2 system." I am assuming it's one of those systems compromised of cobbled-together, freely available knowledge put together by some slimeball who knows heartbroken saps will pay $75 for some false hope that they might get their ex back.

I remember a PUA gura (I'm pretty sure it was Gambler) saying that you shouldn't listen to anyone on PUA forums. I didn't really listen and thought most people would still be knowledgeable but now I'm starting to doubt that.

I've followed the advice of the Ex2 System and from PUA training (http://www.puatraining.com/blog/get-you ... riend-back) and it's worked perfectly so far. The Ex2 System advises to make a fake FB profile. I thought it was weird too but I did it and I think it worked. The fact that most people on this forum haven't read this book tells me that I shouldn't be taking your advice because from what I've read, it seems to be the gold standard.

I'm starting to realize that people constantly giving advice on forums aren't actually out of their house approaching women and living their life. I only come on here to get advice when I really need it. So far, people just give me the same bullshit and aren't as knowledgeable as I hope they would be.