Me and my ex-girlfriend of 4 month broke up 4 weeks ago today. She had started acting weird and when I confronted her she said things felt different, things had changed. She said she had been hoping that the feeling would just go away just as quickly as it came. I said, "Maybe we should take a break." She agreed. And then both of us went on to say that we had been thinking of breaking it off.

At first, I wasn't sure if we were actually just "taking a break" or "breaking up." I texted her after a week, and said "Hey how's McDonalds going? (she had just started working there). I bet you're manager by now haha. Let's meet up tomorrow for a drink and catch up."

She responded with "It's been good. I'm working a lot. But I can't, I have class tomorrow and planned to hang out with my roommates."

I didn't respond to that. It's now 3 weeks since then, and I still really miss her.

I've read the Ex2 System and he says in 3-4 weeks after the breakup, women experience massive loneliness and receptive if you contact them.

I was thinking of contacting her tomorrow, seeing if she wanted to meet up. Should I try again? What do you guys think? I'm hoping to set up a meet, and then if she is difficult, bring up the idea of being friends, making it seem like I have no intention of getting her back. Any advice would be great.

It might be important to note that I was dealing with pretty severe anxiety and depression near the end of our relationship. She knew that and knew I was starting meds. She said that wasn't why things were ending, but I was obviously behaving quite different near the end and I think it did contribute. I'm now on the right meds and feeling much stronger.

Im the last guy to be asking about relationships.. but from my experience with game I'd say don't propose being friends if you wanna win her back

Why's that? I would think it would give off the impression that I've moved on. I could then show off my improved self, and start gaming her slowly over time. My plan was to see if she wanted to meet up, and then if she was hesitant, bring up being friends to make it clear I'm not after her (although I am haha).

Anyone else on here have any thoughts? I feel like I have nothing to lose by trying to set a meetup.

Do yourself a favour and move on...this girl is no longer into you, my friend. You currently have ONEITIS , because after breaking up with her, you want to get back with her- but she DOES NOT. Accept it, move on and become the best man you can possibly be and GFTOW!

Now, do yourself a favour and repeat the following to yourself on a daily basis: "I AM THE PRIZE!"

Your attitude, mentality and belief should be that you ARE THE FUCKING PRIZE TO BE WON and if ANY girl does not want your company, IT IS HER LOSS!!! - SHE IS NOT WORTHY OF YOU because you are so fucking damn AWESOME! So go find one who will, and ditch all the rest. You will NEXT every single fucking girl who disrespects you or shows a lack of attraction for you on the spot! Your inner-game, self-esteem and confidence should be totally impenetrable- NO GIRL SHALL AFFECT YOU!! You are a FUCKING TOWER- ROCK SOLID, TALL, PROUD AND IMMOVABLE!

You are now going to become a lady-killer my friend! Embrace this divine wisdom that I have imparted upon you!!

She might have said that the severe anxiety and depression aren't the reasons the relationship ended, but they probably are.

I'm better now. That's why I want to try to meet up with her. But how should I approach it and what should I say?

Keep up the no contact, keep gaming women and give her the chance to miss you. It will only happen if she contacts you imo, that's how these things have played out in my experience helping my best friend through a break up. Strict no contact until she reaches out to you, and even then it's got to be a couple of times before you respond.

If she doesn't contact you, then you get over her and everybody wins.

I completely agree

Do you know any of her friends? If you do, you could "accidentally" end up at the same party. There you'll have a chance to build your value by using social proof, which your girl will surely notice.

The trick is in building your value without paying too much attention to her; you don't want to make it seem like you're in a hurry to get back, just that, you know, you enjoy her company and it was fun to see her. Make yourself valuable and then go with the push and pull. Have fun, tease her. Never make any kind of comment about your relationship. Keep her guessing. You might want to put an arm around another girl and say, "this girl is awesome. I think I want to adopt her." and then perhaps ask your gf is she agrees.

If you've been depressed, chances are you've been pretty low value. That is the first issue I would correct. Also, you might want to snap out of that sorry state. You don't need medication, you need to take responsibility of yourself. You and only you are responsible for your state, I don't care what the f*ck happened in your earlier life. Girls are hypersensitive to that kind of shit.

Yes actually, I met her at a mutual friend's party. I talked to her recently and she said they'll probably be having more parties come September and she'd let me know when. That's also what I was thinking. Waiting out until then, and seeing her there. It's just hard to not contact her now. But I guess contacting her now would put me further "in debt" so to speak when I see her again in September. So far the break has been pretty clean and I haven't been overly needy or desperate. To you then, does the possibility of seeing her at the party mean I shouldn't contact her right now? By then, she could have a new boyfriend.

And I'm sorry but I've dealt with depression my whole life and you can't just snap out of it. Clinical depression is different then feeling sad about life and your circumstances.

Did you discuss the common side-effects antidepressants have with your doctor before you started? Just wanted to make sure...

1. Addicting.
2. Makes personality change.
3. Makes you "not feel" aka drains happiness out of your life.
4. Mass murders and suicides are often linked to antidepressants. The substances remove inhibitions (kinda like alcohol) which makes it possible to do things that you never would otherwise.
5. Antidepressants were never designed to cure depression. You're meant to stay on them, for life. Healthy people are not very good customers.
6. It is a not-so-secret secret that doctors get paid vacations and luxory homes paid by medical companies for recommending their products. It's nice of you to support them. I'm sure the doctors are very good people.

I'm not telling you shouldn't take medication. You are the expert on your life. Hell, sometimes medication might be needed. Do I believe it to be a long term solution? No. Negative emotions are a neccessity of life. They are a message. They tell us we need to change either our actions or our outlook.

Also... Do you notice how you justify your depression to me? You even have a name for it. Clinical depression. Yet I bet you're not as clinically depressed on some days as you are on others. And if you're not sad about life and your circumstances, whatare you sad about? Did you ever consider the possibility that, maybe, you're just lacking in some key nutrients? Or maybe you're just surrounded by assholes? Or you just never learned to recognize negative emotions and call them all 'depressed'? Just want to give you some options coz that clinically depressed shit doesn't sound very fun.

Getting back to the main subject, the girl. Make the party your plan A. If an opportunity pops up before that, take it. I'm sure you'll have enough on your hands with yourself to keep you occupied until then.

I notice you're cherrypicking and only taking in the advice that allows you to have some form of contact with her.

Seriously, no contact, start to actually move on, that's the only hope you have.

Or tell her friends to invite you to their parties and seem like a desperate stalker as you exhibit painfully transparent attempts to make her jealous and further compound that you're not over her.

I know I'm cherrypicking. I thought of that. I know if I was reading this thread as an outsider, I'd think I'm a pussy too who should move on. But I have hope. I've been deep in the friendzone before with this HB9 and after learning PU, I banged her. She was so turned off by me, but I turned it around. If that's possible, anything's possible.

So I have come up with a plan. You guys might not agree and a lot of it might be "beta," but I'm going to give it a shot anyway.

During our relationship, I became friends with one of her guy roommates. I felt like I could trust him. Soon after the relationship ended, I texted him asking him to tell me if he heard anything from her. I told him not to tell my girl or anyone else that I contacted him, and that I trusted him. He responded saying he wouldn't tell anyone and would tell me if he heard anything. He didn't end up hearing anything, particularly because he went home for a week. But before I make any move now, I'm going to text him asking if she's seeing anyone else. If she is, fine. I'll at least have some insight.

If she isn't seeing anyone, I think I'm going to text her casually. If she is seeing someone else, or she isn't very responsive to my texts or attempt to meet up after texting her casually, I am going to say that I simply want to meet up as friends and/or talk on the phone about what I did wrong in our relationship. I will explain that I want to learn what I did wrong and what mistakes I made so that I don't make them again, because I've started dating/seeing another girl. Some may think this is pathetic. I see it as finding some closure and somewhat getting the upper hand.

I know it's been 4 weeks and this talk would be terrible timing. But I need to get over this, find some closure, and move on. I'm the type of person that needs answers and closure. I wish we had had this talk earlier or I had pushed her for an explanation right off the bat. But I didn't and that's the way she goes...

Let me know what you think.

Are you even trying to pick up ANY other human females?