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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 2:05 am 
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I was watching Justin Wayne and he explains that he had to test whether to go direct or indirect. How do you test to decide which one to use. any examples.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsNb-vL-R4A


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 Post subject: Re: indirect vs direct
PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:50 am 
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I was watching Justin Wayne and he explains that he had to test whether to go direct or indirect. How do you test to decide which one to use. any examples.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsNb-vL-R4A
It depends direct game might work might not, indirect game works all the time.
Direct game can speed up all the process and make an instant love scene.
Indirect game helps on making you more friendly and less threatening to people.

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Btw the guy on the video, he is so fucking annoying he doesn't even let the girl talk don't do that! He just deliver and deliver and deliver... that's fucked up!

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 Post subject: Re: indirect vs direct
PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:08 pm 
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I can't find the video now, but Gambler did a really good bit on this.

He basically said that if you walk across a room to a girl ignoring everyone else you pass by then ask her "Who lies more?" it's retarded because she just saw you walk past everyone else ignoring them to ask her some indirect opener while looking over your shoulder :p


Here's a run down of when to use each (My personal opinion, of course!)


Direct
You've already opened her non-verbally (eye contact, smile)
She's looking bored while her friends are chatting (playing with her phone, stirring her drink etc) You can go indirect but what's the point? You'll be more interesting than what she's doing so you may as well go direct
Dancefloor (Again, you'd have probably opened her non-verbally) Imagine asking "Who lies more?" on the dancefloor :P It's not the place for a conversation, but you need to open her verbally at some point to isolate her


Indirect
You're stood at the bar waiting to be served or in the smoking area (lower energy areas of the club)
Your wing already opened the set and pulled you in
You're opening the set for set theory (Gaming the room)
You need to work out set logistics (is he her boyfriend?)



and please follow this rule: In the above scenarios you can use a direct opener in place of an indirect opener but you shouldn't use an indirect opener in place of a direct opener.


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 Post subject: Re: indirect vs direct
PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:18 pm 
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Direct strategy it's always worth. It's like playing Poker when you know all the cards. It's the difference between being the bull and the hyena.

When you approach frequently girls and you are direct to all of them, your approach anxiety and rejection fear dissapear for any girl you try.

When you are direct you know by her responses (which are easier to understand when you say something she doesn't expect) how she feels or thinks about you and you can decide if it pays for going on or switching to another girl.

Promiscuous girls tend to prefer direct approaches.

When you establish a hot SPAM from the beggining, it's easier to get to a hot relationship.

It shows honesty and sincerity, because you show your thoughts and intention clearly.


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