So, I got 3 MLTR's, the game worked on all three to get them...but one is starting to get weird. The pull-backs etc are now working against me instead of help me. For instance now if she "misbehaves" and I punish her it doesnt work anymore, she gets more pissed. So my question is....do I need to revert to some AFC tendencies or have I lost the attraction I built in the beginning phases.

I only ask this because I read The Game by Style and he went through a similar problem with a girl he wanted. Every PUA tactic he used backfired so he kind of gave up the PUA shit and went AFC in a way

thats a tough one. maybe u should focus on the more attraction aspect of pu. and work n ur inner game.

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Can't tell without you giving an example of some of the pullbacks, and what she did to warrant them.

During the initial attraction phases you can get away with a lot of funny shit, but after you're in a LTR the rules change and you can't use the same methods. Like Style said of Lisa, "it's a constant challenge".

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well, the funny thing is, the game has absolutely no solid advice on how to date a girl, just on how to attract her.

this is why PUA's cant hold a girlfriend for more than a month or so most of the time!!!

Seriously.. She is attracted to the guy we were when we first met them- funny, entertaining, etc. You can only do so many gambits, routines, etc until you run out. Afterward, I think a letdown is imminent... even if she falls in love with the person you really are.

There shouldn't be a letdown as long as you're a "good person" or "boyfriend material"-- Being a PUA should help you with your all around social skills... and even beyond that, it helps the girls to choose you and later realize that you are "boyfriend material" when they may not have realized that unless you used gambits and routines

Here's my take on this. You MUST have a balance. The biggest reason why women are attracted to certain men is because of other men. AFC's give women a bad example of a man. Therefore when an Alpha Male comes into a woman's life she feels the need for him. The woman now has seen both sides of the story so to speak. In order for a human being to know what they like they first must have to know what they don't like. You've equalized a balance she so desperately needed. On one side of the balance stands you and on the other side stand previous men that have given her reason to feel attracted to you. That was the balance in the past. Now you must create a balance within the relationship involving just you and the woman you're trying to keep attracted to you.

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