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PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:13 am 
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Do you guys make eye contact before you start talking to a girl? Girls don't look at me to make eye contact before I engage and things fall apart to were small talk feels awkward. I don't get eye contact outside a single glance and a girl will most likely walk away or ignore me. I've tried dancing, talking, or even trying to make more eye contact with this girls but things go down hill quick.

My usual openers are, "Hi, my name is xxxx. So do you go to college?"

Though I rarely make it to the openers. And to be honest if I make to to the opener she will want to sleep with me anyways. Getting to a point where I am well received seems to be a problem.

My usual pick up places are dance clubs. I'm not successful but I dance well. Better then many who take dance lessons and I am familiar with at least 7 styles of dance and I freestyle to whatever is being played.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 11:26 pm 
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I've been to many bars and clubs and I have yet to get any girls to ask me to dance outside of a Latin dance club. And I got out a lot lol. Well I have no problem with an approach. Most of the girls simply aren't interested. I might say hi but they will ignore me and not look even in my direction in order to ignore me.

Talking to girls is easy. They just get uninterested after I start talking. Is there a way to gauge interest before approaching.? Otherwise I'm wasting my time getting rejected. It doesn't take but a good 15 minutes to hit up a club and talk to all the single ladies there anyways. I would just hit up the other dance club or go to a bar if I could figure out interest levels.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 6:33 pm 
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Guaging interest is fairly easy, it's PUA 101 you should know this, look for IOI's easiest way is eye contact, a smile, a brush of her hair, etc.

If you can't get the IOI one thing you can do is just approach her from the front straight up, or just tap her shoulder and say "hey I couldn't help but notice __(insert something)__" ideally if your humor oriented (like I am) ask a few questions interview style and then just go all humor.

An example:

you: "hey"
her: "hi" *all shy / wishy washy / unsure if she wants to talk to you*
you: "what do you study?"
her: "i'm studying medicine" *she will probably roll her eyes because everyone asks the same questions*
you: (this is where you take it in a different direction and crack jokes of any sort)
" i fell in love with my doctor when i was a kid..." or "bet you wear the green/blue coat" (in europe they use one color in USA another, so pick the opposite and bust her balls about how she wants to be different than the others)

doesn't matter, just keep it happy, funny, engaging, make statements, and while cracking the jokes amp it up with kino, just avoid an interview style conversation, that's how you'll keep them interested.


Also keep in mind there are 3 types of girls:
1) girls that are interested from the get go and already decided they will sleep with you (they throw lots of IOIs)
2) girls that are unsure if they'll sleep with you they're 50/50 (they may throw IOIs they may not)
3) girls that don't want to sleep with you at all (they won't throw any IOI and may be hardcore bitches)

what it boils down to is:
girls #1 - you just have to not fuck anything up, and you'll get them
girls #2 - you have to use some mediocre game, and push them to the interest level by not fucking up and by showing them how awesome you are
girls #3 - will require everything you've got, and then some, and you might still not get them

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