Hi. I was a ware of the community but only seriously started sarging late 2011 (at the age of 17 after being spurred on by my oneitus). I would say tha I am above average looking- have been stopped and complimented by random strangers even pre-pua- but was previously very shy. Pua was a true revelation. I was able to break out from my shell, get numbers, make-outs and lays at an amazing rate. During the period of december 2011-feb 2013 I did over a 1000 approaches with a number close rate of 10% (had a low return in my 1St 2 months when i approached blindly) and had sex with 12 different women. I was living the dream. In Jan this year I fell in love. The girl of my dreams. She was objectively uglier than me but I really love her. Anyway she apparently had a crush on some ugly loser (dude completely lacks facial dominance and cotour) and within no time they were dating. I didn't even bother after that (no bf-destroyer used) and I subsequently fell into a depression of sorts. I grew disenchanted with pua. A system which had given me so much, couldnt give me the one thing I truly wanted. I rediscovered puahate(shitty advice) which has done major damage to my self-esteem and mind. I now feel like sub-human genetic trash. No women will love etc. I have sunk deeper and deeper into this dark abyss of self-pity and self-hate. I avoid social contact (except my old incel school mates)and am now cold, rude and distant to women in particular. With many of them, including my oneitus, labelling me as cruel, arrogant, 'full of yourselve' etc. I have no motivation to continue with pua inspite of my desire to. Were any of you in a similar state. Where should I start again. Any advice, motivation or comment will be greatly appreciated. Thanks

Topic moved to inner game.

Hey bro,

I think you have some serious inner game issues. You need to work on your self-esteem, self-confidence, and add a lil happiness to your life. There are several programs and/or books you can check out.

I have a confidence program myself, you can check it out here: http://coreselfconfidence.com/

I also have something that may help with your happiness, this drill was created by Richard Wiseman, a world famous PHD: http://coreselfconfidence.com/happy-5-d ... l-happier/

If you want a book I can help you find one as well. Then you can go to a library and check one out.

Peace and Love,

Vic

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dude, i feel you, I was there not too long ago. Drastically change your lifestyle. Do something like acting or performing, music w/e that gets people to praise you. only a year ago I was in your same state of mind. I was 22 years old had terrible one itis ( still friends with her, she has a bf, but i am no longer attached nor attracted )i joined a country band and my life drastically changed. girls say im hot on my facebook page, people constantly compliment on my musical abilities and physical traits. People even asked me for my autographs. now when i sarge and get rejected though sometimes it gets to me, i think back and see that there are people there who praise me, I say to myself i am a dhv guy, look at what i do!

Im not saying you have to be in a band to get out of your state of mind, but pursue something exciting in your life thats not PUA related, PUA should be among your priorities but not your #1 priority, perhaps 2nd or third. whatever you pursue is only going to not only help your state of mind but your game too!

Pray with God

getting dumped is a fact of life, you have to deal with it man. The first thing to do is stop thinking about it and when you find yourself doing it and saying all those self-defeating thoughts, stop them and move your mind onto something else postiive - e.g. watch TV, read a book etc.

were there signs it was coming? usually over the age of 18 people aren't dicking around anymore and you start getting signals when somethings wrong. the older you get the more you start to notice them.

Are you sure that you're depression is caused ONLY because some dude stole you girl? It doesn't seem like that to me. IMHO you should introspect and look for what else is bothering you and engage your inner demons and expose the skeletons in your closet. I'm sure everyone would like to help you out as much as they can and I'd like to answer if you'd like a PM.
Now about the chick, to me you have 2 options:

1. Chasing after chicks will just make you feel empty and thus you really need a GF to fall in love with. If this is true, you should say thanks to PUA as you can use this technique to get a really high quality GF (I have a couple friends that did this). Just really emphasize rapport and comfort (without being friend-zoned, of course).

2. You need to get laid. A lot. Then I think you should just forcefully approach girls little by little and regain your strength. Then you will get back into your happy old self.

Only you can tell which one is the true one!

Regardless, time will heal all wounds regardless of what you choose, so look at the bright side you're doing great !

It's gonna be perfectly fine dude. Just remember, you were awesome enough before to be so successful with women and attract the love of your life. All you gotta do is make your way back up to that level, which won't be hard since you've already been there before.

And when you're there, arm yourself with some good information on relationships so you don't make the same mistakes you made before that caused your heartbreak.

I hope that helps a little man. You'll be fine. You're here on this forum and that's a good start.

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If you're one of those guys who reads countless pick-up material yet still has some trouble meeting and seducing women, because of AA or fear of rejection or whatever, this'll fix you up.

If you're hit down, is there an option BUT to get back up?
I can tell you it's gonna be painful, but it's the only way out, man.

Life ain't gonna stop, nor is the pain gonna ask if you want to keep feeling it or not, it'll come as it wants to.

I use this thoughtset while I'm pumping, I ALWAYS pump out until I can barely move my arms.

Just saying. That's motivation for me.

Don't give yourself 2 ways. You deserve the best.

There are two kinds of pick up artists, the way I look at it.

There are those who are in it for only their own gratification- which is fine, but it is not very rewarding.

Then, there are those who want to use pick up to inspire people, and women. Learning and using pickup is a double edged sword- you will be able to affect the lives of those you interact with... the question is, how will you do that?

Leave the girls better than you got them- become that guy in the movies who inspires them and changes their life. With pick up, you will be able to make other people happy, but more importantly, you will be happy. Stick with it, it is not an unworthy cause. I feel a lot worse about myself when I am not improving at something specific- that's what you need to focus on.