My journal as an 18 year old virgin to PUA



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 4:11 pm 
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Hi,
I just read The Game, which opened my eyes to this incredible community.
Basically, I am an AFC. At school, not much was going on with ladies because I was so unconfident with myself. I am quite social, and I have many great friends, I don't sit at home alone or anything like that. I am 5ft7, 57 kg and I look like I am about 15. To emphasise this, I am the guy who is gonna get ID'ed at 30. I am 18 and have just left school.

I have never had a proper girlfriend, and any "experiences" were drunk one-nighters, except one which was ten times worse... Whenever I go to a club, I get laughed at when I approach women, I even got called a 13 year old by one...

I have started to change my body, I have gained a lot of weight through going to the gym, but that will only help so far. I have some stuff going for me: I am smart and friendly.

I have decided to start a journal to help me track my progress and hopefully improve myself.

Day 1

Today, I started my journey. I went to my gym and started a new workout. Its safe to say I almost threw up by the end, but was definitely worth it. At the gym, i managed to talk my spotter into being my wing and told him about PUA. He agreed that we should try out the newbie challenge when we went into town afterwards. He is going to make an account here later I think.

We set the original aims of talking to 5 girls each, and we both failed. In the 2 and a half hours, there were not a huge amount of opportunities but we did bottle it with some. We ended up saying hi to just 1 person each, and I am not sure if they even heard it.

Tomorrow I am going to go into a city, and will try and reach the 5 girl target. I need to be more confident talking to people but I want my AA to change so badly. I am determined to change as I am fed up of seeing so many girls and not being able to talk to them.

I will update this if I can, and any motivation or advice would be hugely appreciated.
Thanks for reading.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:28 pm 
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An approach is an approach! It's the first step! Good job! Don't worry if you are still afraid to open, back when I started out in the first two months I couldn't open, I relied on others to open for me. After a while you realize it's the only way forward so you do it. Ma anxiety hasn't gone away, but I just act when I feel like it, when I have to. It takes overcoming even today, but you do it a lot of times over the long run.

good luck!


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 6:14 pm 
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@Tr@veler thanks for the support! :) we're you quiet about looking on this forum etc. or open about it with your friends? If you have a journal or something from your early days I will visit it.

day 2 & day 3

So unfortunately my friend changed plans so I will not be going into the city until Thursday. Yesterday the only thing worth noting down is that I got Puatraining-approaching confidence and played it before I went to bed. Today I tried out small talk with my dentist a bit just to get a little bit of practice.

Other than that, I haven't had a huge amount of contact with people since a lot of people are away and I would have to drive to get to anywhere that the masses go. I really am looking forward to Thursday as it shall be interesting. I am going to play the cd again tonight. I also watched a few vids of daygame and approaches just to give what I have read some context.

Thanks for reading. :) hopefully the journal will get better as it goes on. Bear with me
FDGN


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:27 pm 
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Day 4

The city wasnt as interesting as I had hoped, but i walked with more confidence about me and made eye contact with a lot more people, especially girls, with a cheeky smile on the end 8) There were a couple I could have approached but I bailed. I am glad I made the eye contact as it showed me most people smile back. I think my working out over the last 6 months has been soo positive and i noticed i was getting more attention than I have had before. I felt like a bit of a boss in that respect and in my confidence.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:17 pm 
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Day 5 and Day6

So yesterday made eyes with a lovely waitress but didn't push any further because I was with my mother.

Tonight I went out into town and I opened at last! We were bouncing pubs and we ended up in a dance bar which was picked with ladies in tight dresses. We had a booth and some girls HB5-hb7 (honest) on a 21st bday night came and sat in the booth so I pulled an opinion opener: "does it count as cheating if a girlfriend kisses another girl?" And followed it on with a couple of questions. I was impressed with how well it hooked them but I didn't really know what to talk about next so they ended up walking off and it worked out well cos we were about to leave anyway.
Even though it wasn't perfect I am still so happy! How can I transition from the opener?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:59 pm 
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Ok so since I last wrote, I have started a full time job so have no time this summer for PU studying as much but I stiill wanna post significant events, like last night.
I was at a party, and I happened to be one of the only people this girl(HB6 but potential HB8) knew. My mate was getting with her mate as well soo I thought this would be a prime oppurtunity. I used some negs, and she was quite drunk. I used the fake nails one and there is one which I think i took too far. She asked why her mate got all the guys and she didnt, and a tipsy me said: dont worry if i get bored, i will come find you later." :oops: anyway we carried on having fun etc. and later i was with her and i made her spin, so a compliance test. we were getting along fine and doing lots of photos and stuff and I tried my best to kino escalate subtlely. I then isolated her, by suggesting her, me, and the other two who were getting it on go look at something in the garden. My girl didnt seem overly keen, but the other one, who is a great pivot, came so she came too. we ended up not going to look at what we were going to, and the other two started hugging and stuff so i made the girl come with me to leave them alone. while we were about to get back to the house i slowed down but she didnt show any sign of stopping or anything and so we went back inside. Next thing i know, she has told her mate that i tried to get with her, and so i explained to the pivot(HB8 old friend)that i wanted to , but i hadnt tried yet. she DIDNT tell my girl, i am 99.99% sure. but after that i was kinda nervous in case i got accused again. then her parents showed up by surprise and that was over :( I have been chatting to her today ok but still i feel like i failed majorly....
What did I do wrong? :( Bloody hell.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 3:48 am 
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but after that i was kinda nervous in case i got accused again.
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Accused?... Nervous... Why is it wrong for a male to desire a pretty female, it's in our nature.

Once you accept that you like women and are unshameful about it, women will like you back easier. I recently watching Zan Perrion's speech (dunno what it was called, just youtube him, it will pop up). And it really helped me internalize that I am a man who likes and loves women, and there is nothing wrong w/ that. I had halfway internalized that, but once I saw how ok it was, and have fully internalized it; I have seen a huge change in my game.7

For example, I was literally at Subway 3 hours ago, getting a sandwich and being social and fun like I normally in. This cute girl that walked in after me, caught onto my energy and into my interactions w/ the subway people. We talked as our sandwiches got made, and I noticed her eyes lighting up, and I noticed she kept creeping closer and closer to me. She turned me on, so I held more eye contact w/ her as I spoke and built the tension.

Anyway, I was outside, I asked her for her number, and she was immediately awkward as fuck about it. It was very weird to me, and very incongruent w/ her behaviour towards me in Subway. Then she told me she was 17, in highschool, taking Chemistry. And I started laughing, and was like oh, "that's why your so awkward about this, your not used to being asked for your number". I am 27, I look 27, but because I thought it was ok in my own head that I am attracted to her (despite what society tells me on this subject), I didn't get awkward about it. So she started to loosen up a bit, and ask me ?s back.

I didn't get her number, but the interaction ended well, a complete 180 to how it had started. And it's because I have internalized that I like women, and that it is ok that I like women. I also have no quams about Age/race or anything. I trust what my body, brain, and emotions tell me. If they tell me that this girl turns me on, then she turns me on. Whether she is 40, 17, or black (I am white), then I trust them. Despite what my family or society has tried to tell me my whole life.

I believe that I have healthy emotional wiring. I do not get the same signals talking to a 14 yr old, but apparently


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 3:58 am 
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I do get those signals from that particular 17 yr old. I even went home and whacked off to our interaction and the sexual tension (which was super strong), that we had built up during our conversation in Subway. Only to further the point in my mind, that I was ok for me to be attracted to her. And I am.

I had 3 wonderful conversations/interactions w/ pretty women today. One a nursing student, about my age. Another a Junior in college, and the last one a little 17 yr old. They were all fairly attractive, fit, healthy females.
I was attracted to the nursing student a good amount, and even considered getting her number, but didn't feel I really wanted her enough to pursue her or push our interaction.

The 20-21 yr old Junior, I had fun talking to while waiting for my car, but felt 0 desire to make out w/ or take her home and fuck her. She was skinny, she was cute, but it just wasn't there. I even told her how I had just gotten a patch in my jeans because I ripped a whole in my crotch, and was tired of showing off my goods to everyone. But, in a non sexual way because she didn't interest me like that.

However, the 17 yr old, w/ her bubbly smile and energy, beautiful clear face, and busty curvy cleavage looking up at me as I gazed into her eyes completely entranced w/ me while I talked. Well.... I'm hard again just typing this.

And that is Mother Fucking OK! I will never again apologize for desiring a beautiful Women.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:21 pm 
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I know it has been a long time. Life has flown by. Enjoyed my job and came to Uni. K-closed 2 girls in my first 5 weeks, but my confidence has still taken a hit.

The pressure is building on me to lose my virginity and it has reached the point where my SPAM just sigh when i say: "i didnt get laid last night" and give me a dissapointed look of disbelief. I think I could have at least K-closed a few more if I didn't get so drunk that I forgot to finish conversations with the ladies and just walk off..

University is great though, here in Edinburgh! There is a really hot girl on my English course HB7-8 probably but there is something about her. Shame about her boyfriend. I have read enough PUA to know this doesn't necessarily mean this is a no go zone but I am gonna sit back at least for a few weeks.

I have met sooo many people and my general game has improved so much just talking to people but still feel lost when approaching a close. Also never know what to do when a girl comes over and says hi in a club. I am nothing special dancing and can never hear what they are saying. I get quite selfconscious about interacting with woman at clubs.

I am quite down tbh. I just feel like I am being left behind. It really doesnt help that i look about 15 as well.
If anyone is still reading this, thanks for your time :)
FG51


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:21 am 
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If a girl comes up to you in a club and says Hi, then that means she is most likely interested in you. All you have to do is say "hi" back, "my name is ___, and you are?" While you give a strong handshake with stronger eye contact. It's a different game, but with woman who are more open to hooking up and having fun. Be a dominant male and try to not over think it
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:45 pm 
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Thanks! What if I see someone I want to "get to know" if you know what i mean?


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 12:41 am 
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Besides approaching them, I cannot tell you what to do. It's always going to be different. Different girls, different situations, and works for you compared and me is different. I suggest that you are smooth and talk to her. Personally i would be direct and try and enjoy myself. Escalate when you get the chance and find what works for you. I wish i could tell you the magical sentence that wins you the girl, but it doesn't exist.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:07 am 
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@HSP Many thanks. Spent too long straying away from this now :/ picked up some bad habits. Am going out tomorrow night so will report back :)


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Rooting for you dude!

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 12:38 am 
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. Something's different. Got girls grinding up on me all over the place but I must have given wrong signals or escalated too slow because they gave me the oddest looks when I tried to K-close. Definite improvements though.


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