Hi All!

This is my first post and as the title suggests I have been hitting the streets of NYU without any major success.

My profile:
26 years old, 5’ 10’’, 160 lbs, average look, some muscles, but barely visible under the shirt, somewhat successful professionally, looking for LTR

I am looking for deeper women and am not particularly interested in bar girls and the youngest girl at my work is in her early 50s, I figured out I pretty much have to rely on the day game and internet. Because people write a lot how inefficient online dating is, I decided to hit the streets. I did two weekends of approaches (103 approaches in total) and results have been disastrous: it is hard to believe if something can be less efficient. The problem seems to be that girls are busy and will not stop to talk to you1

My main tactic has been just to approach girls walking on the streets with a complement-question. I usually try to look for tattoo, necklace, color matching in dressing and if there is nothing like that I just complement a color. I ask something stupid like: Hi! I have never seen anything like that tattoo, did you design it yourself? I should say that it actually works quite well, but only in the cases girls stop to talk to you! Almost every time somebody stopped we had a well-flowing conversation for like 10 min and once even went to a cafe.

The huge problem is that like 1 girl in 10-15 will stop. The standard situation is that they just walk around you saying something like I’m sorry or often without stopping at all. A lot of them will also look on you with a good amount of anger. I suspect that the problem is that most women are in a hurry and it is difficult to establish an eye contact and by just approaching girls I am kind of scaring them. This is actually supported by the fact that in more relaxed SPAM, like say, on park benches, I had much more success, but the problem is that it takes like two hours to find a young non-tourist woman sitting on a park bench. Surprisingly, subway has mostly been brutal as Big Foot Silva to me: you start speaking to a girl and she looks on you like you just ruined her life.

I have also been trying an indirect approach by first asking how to get somewhere and then striking with a complement-question. It turns out that it is much easier to stop a girl that way and you also have some time to establish an eye contact. However, she will immediately run away after answering your first question and will not pay attention to the continuation.

I think this problem is not NYC specific and applies pretty much to any bigger city. So, guys, how do you stop women in the cities?

My second question is what are good day game places in NYU? Manhattan (especially Midtown and Downtown) is the most convenient area for me, but I do not mind going further away. I have been mainly around Union Square, Washington Square, and Fulton street piers. Mostly Saturdays and Sundays as my working schedule is somewhat busy. My experience is that there are a lot of women at Union Square but almost none of them stops! (see above). Washington Square girls seem to be somewhat less busier and chances of starting a conversation are somewhat higher. However, there are much less women there and if you only want to speak to girls you are even moderately interested, you might end up searching like 30 minutes just to let her to walk around you. Piers are overcrowded with good women but vast majority are couples and tourists. Given my interests, I have also been looking in museums/exhibitions: but it is also like 99% tourists.

Any advice would be very much appreciated!

Haha! Reading this post makes me laugh. If you've been gaming in NYC for a while, you'll notice that a majority of the young women in NYC are not actually from NYC. Most of them are from other States, some even from other countries. During long weekends, they usually go back to their hometowns to visit family. So, gaming during Memorial Day or Independence Day weekends is usually not a good idea. For those long weekends, you're better off trying to get a date or a potential gf at a friend's bbq party, which is a great place to meet women btw. But, as far as women not stopping or being nasty to you, I'd say you just had a few bad days. We all had bad days before. Just go back out there next weekend, and I'm pretty sure the scenario will be different. If you go out for a few weekends in a roll and still get the same results, then maybe you're approaching half-heartedly, or you're not well-dressed or well-groomed. Regardless, get back out there next weekend and report back to the forum what you notice.

After reading this post, all i can say is welcome to sarging at NYC! Your on the right page, i would say learn some more about courtship's body language because that union sq area is a gold mine as you have learned. The best time to sarge there is when they have some kind of event in the park. But your right most women do respond well to day game unless you know how to look for the body language ioi's, and dhv. I think women im NYC are tougher to pick up because they are always being approached there fore their guards are always up. Just walk down 14 st and pay attention to all thw street solicitors, vendors, homeless beggers, etc. these girls get approached by all of them and you have to seperate yourself from that profile so DHV is the key to street game in nyc. But yea the easiest way to pick up in this city is by sharing a mutual connection with your intended target. We can sarge together whenever i got free time. If your interested PM me. But i would advise sarging at the bars because its easier, but since ur not interested in the bar girls, use them as pivots to increase your social circle of female friends

Thanks a lot for the advice, guys! Yeah, I totally agree that it is much easier to meet at friends' parties etc., but I only have very occasional access to these kind of events and most women there are with their bfs/husbands, so there is not much choice.

What do you mean by approaching half-heartedly? Of course, I am not 100% interested in every women I approach, but I am still smiling and trying to show interest. You mean that women can still feel that I am not fully in? Any tips how to camouflage it?

How do you DHV on the street before starting a conversation? Like wearing a suit? Also IOI is not completely clear as it seems that 99.99% of women on the streets are looking nowhere?

Sarging at the bars to increase the social circle is a very interesting advice, although I am a bit afraid that it might be a long way. What are good bars without loud music?

Any of the bars aroung union sq will do. They are always filled with college girls during the weekend.

DHB'ing is something i need to work on as well but wearing a suit isnt necessary. Being that we are using union sq as an example heres a tip. Say your walking down the road, you open with a directional opener. " hey sorry to bother you but im running late for class and was wondering if you knew where parson's school of design is?" Right there you already dhv but stating your a student on your way to class. This sets you apart from the rest of the street solicitors. And shows that your a student, not just some random dude hanging outside picking up girls. At this time if she is attracted to you, she will preen and thats when you transition and game from there. (body-language-the-key-to-natural-game-vt71495.html) check out that posting for body language and ioi's. smiling and eye contact are not the only 2 you should be lookin for..Read the whole thing and it'll help your street game.

If you want to sarge nurses and doctors, try sarging in these venues: http://www.med.nyu.edu/patients-visitor ... eals-and-1

Take your breakfast, lunch or dinner for 3 consecutive weekends in a row in these venues. The approach invitation cues are likely to increase after people see you regularly in these places for quite some time.

Say, you take breakfast in one cafe, and then you take lunch in another cafe. You take dinner in another cafe. In between meal times, you can do street game.

If you want to sarge lawyers and paralegals, locate cafes or restaurants near these offices: http://nymag.com/nymag/advertorial/toplawfirms/

Many lawyers and paralegals work on weekends. Just find the right venue and the right fit, then you fit in. Use Google Earth to identify and mark the sarging venues around these girl rich environments.

Also, use free software to keep track of your propinquity sarging like this one: http://asana.com/ Treat each venue as a project and each girl as a task. You can sarge some girls for social proofing and sarge others for the f-close. Record all of the nonverbal signs that you see per girl that has an interaction with you starting with the first eye contact. As someone mentioned earlier, body language is mission critical in daygame. You'll get sharper at body language when you record the signs with free software like the one I've linked.

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I have had the same problem in London and Stoke on Trent where I used to live. Yes seated women are by far the best, if you can find any seated area, it doesn't have to be a large park. I used to open seated women in Stoke on Trent city centre when they pedestrianised some of the streets and put seating in them. But the main problem with that is that you have to spend hours sometimes trying to find a suitable woman who is seated.

Getting walking women to stop in the street I also find is very hard and standing women are hard too because they are usually waiting for someone and don't like to be bothered. I have tried a range of different approaches from infield videos I have watched by the top puas like Sasha, Yad and Tom Torero. I think watching a few infield videos by the top puas first before going out to do approaches helps a lot.