Yeah, I'll open up and start talking to a group of girls, but then my friends (they don't follow or don't know about the PUA scene) come in, seeing the girls disarmed and just steal the show. i end up just standing there watching everyone else talk. What do I do if this happens? My friends tend to ignore me sometimes, and it's hard to get attention when I'm around them. What do I do if one of the girls or guys knows a few of my friends? yeah. My main problem is getting and maintaining the attention of the group.

try having several pre thought out stories to tell in order to keep thier interest.

keep doing what your doing, that is mingling and talking to people, doing it is the only way you can get good at it.

talk to your friends sometime and tell them that they are cockblocking

also


if the conversation is stolen from you, you can retort with


ok, back to me, anyways as i was saying........

or

hey knucklehead the party is over here, anyways......

or

ha ha ha, as i was saying before someone interupted......


if you friends keep ignoring you fuck em, drop em they are not your friends.

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First off, establish yourself as the alpha of your group. A big part of what you said stands out to me, and thats the part about your friends sometimes ignoring you....

You need to be THE alpha of your own group, then you can become the alpha of other groups.

Secondly be prepaired to blow your friends out of the set. Its ok if they wana be part of it and "wing" or pick up the leftovers...but if they steal the show you need to control the frame and destroy thiers.

Here is a small excerpt from a post of mine in PMZ, this is how i blew my cousin, a natural, out of my set.
You need to be fully prepaired to take control of the frame, if you cannot control your friends, how are you gonna game a set who has no reason to respect your frame. As a matter of fact a set that hasnt meet you yet is gonna test the limits of your frame, naturally...you need to be ready to control your frame and remove others from it as you see fit.

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This is really good stuff. I really like this community, you guys r really helpful.
The thing with me though is that i never get to see this group of freinds. They for the most part go to the same highscool, and they always hang out in the area we were in. I only go on occasion. They're closer to eachother, have their own inside jokes, etc. It feels pretty awkward when I'm with them. Now, you're probably working out, how does this guy become the alphamale of a group that hes never with?

The answer you'll probably come up with is that I should just get some friends from my school and hang out with them. And that's what i'm already doing next week. Thing is, the friend i'm going with, i let him borrow the game for a bit, and he wants to go to the mall and try it out. Us 2 PUAs in-training. The thing is though, I don't need a complete style makeover, or w.e. I have a life, I just want to incorporate PUA into it because I've been lacking in the girl's department.

Any advice on becoming the Alphamale? I've read to about page 100 of The Game, and it's inspiring stuff. The thing with Neil, however, is that he goes sarging with other PUAs who know the process and respect him/aren't cockblocks. What I'm trying to do is rather than change my entire lifestyle, is just get some tips on getting the girls in a completely different way. Rather than just disown my current friends and hang out with other PUAs, I want to keep hanging with my friends, but impress them/gain their respect from picking up girls.

I'm basically learning this art because I feel liek I've missed out on a lot from middle school to early highschool, I know I was lacking something when it came to girls, and I just wanted to catch my problem early before I wasted my teenage years. Like I said before, I'm not some loser who stays home and plays WOW all day. I have a life, friends, hobbies, know how to dress (But Ima start experimenting with Peacocking) and I've been with some sweet girls. But the thing is, they didn't impress, and they were my only options at the time.

So yeah, thing i need some tips on: being the alphamale, ignoring my feelings, what to do after an opener, what to do if another guy is stealing my show, what to do if this guy has been in the group for a while?

Thanks so much ppl

basically i would consider you a drifter in school (don't worry i am too)
to sum up a drifter (not an actual PUA term, i just made it up) a drifter is a person that has school mates but it never develops to something personal (example: not friends out of school) what i would do if i were you is do what Ka said about blowing off your so called 'friends/gamekillers' when they steal your show, or i would isolate the target and continue DHV and light kino

an example of isolating your target is to just go like (assuming your in highschool)

you: "Hey, come with me to the school store/snack line, i can tell you about how i almost got ran over by a construction truck! (find something interesting to tell her about, that you can also DHV)

just remember if you plan to work your way to being a PUA, you have to find a hobby you can pursue on your own, because you might have to lose many 'friends' to get the girl.....

Hey that was me 6 months ago! I quit wow about 1-2 months before i started becomming a PUA.

As for your circle of friends who you dont see often, my advice would actually be to hang out with them more. They sound like they AMOG you quite a bit, good practise for learning to counter AMOG.

As for becomming the alpha yourself, read up on the game, finish it asap. Then move on to some other books, like Mystery method. Go over as many alpha posts on this forum as you can.

Start to work on developing all the traits of an alpha male leading upto becomming the leader of men.

My goal since i have started has been to become the leader of my group and so far it is going very well. I am treated drasticlly different by the people (guys and girls) in my social circle.

Just keep reading, stay active on the forums, and practise! Before you know it things will change. I thought itd take months or years for me to change how people react to me, honestly its happened much quicker, weeks-months. My family, friends, and even strangers all treat me better now.

As for people from your school, work on being thier alpha too.

And just to clearify, blowing someone out of your set is alot different then blowing them off. Learn to AMOG, counter AMOG, and how to DHV...and you will be fine.

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Ka, you're seriously a God, lol
Thanks for the advice, and i didnt mean to offend at all with the WOW thing, its just the streotype
I'm going to finish up The Game soon, and I was thinking of getting the new Rules of the Game, but i think the forum and other things are working fairly well. I also got John Alexander's "How to Become an Alpha Male", and I'm skimming through that.

I also got Mystery Method, and I'll start that soon.
So this week I'm going to start working on AMOGing, perfect test grounds are at my all boys school. Itll help me out in the long run.

thx, and good luck yourself