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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 12:54 pm 
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God, it's been ages since I posted here. Time to get something started with this "fail of a journal" as it really is. I hope I can write a report either today or at least tomorrow.

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Cold reading extravaganza.

Yeah, I know. Cold reading is MM stuff, but I think it relates to NLP really well because it can build lots of rapport.

Recently I've been chatting with my girlfriend on fb and though I alread know her family, she told me that I had yet to meet her BFF. She also mentioned that she was afraid of the meeting because I might not like her.

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Background story about said friend:

I know she is really alike my girl. When I was at her there was some strange poster on the wall. I asked her about it and she told me she got it as a present from this friend. It was basically about fictional clubs which consisted of anime characters. And she also happened to put herself and my girlfriend in one of those clubs. This told me a lot about her. This and how my girlfriend talked about her sometimes.

Back to the story, I told my girlfriend that she should not be afraid, I will definitely like her best friend. She asked me how could I be so sure, and then I told her that the present she gave her tells a lot about her to me, which is far more than enough. After that this convo occured:

-What present?
-You know... that poster about anime characters.
-Oh yeah... what about it?
-Well regarding that poster I could give you a complete character of your friend but I might not bother. It's just enough for me that I will like her.
-What do you mean?
-Okay...
Naive, sensitive, opens up hard, emotionally slightly unstable, very caring, but needs at least as much care too, reliable in every circumstances, has a low self esteem, intelligent, honest, but can not communicate well due to her introversy. How accurate is this on a scale of 1-10

-11. Wow... How did you do that? Just from that single present?
-It's actually not that hard. You only need to have a sense of people.
-You'll make an excellent psychiatrist(note, I'm studying at med school and currently I think that psychiatrist is what I will do)
- :) See... She must be a really honest and caring person to give such a personal present. In all the clubs there are just guys because it would make her frustrated if there were any strong women characters, that told me about the low self-esteem. I happen to know she's your best friend and I know how important being reliable is to you, so that was out of question. It also takes some brains to come up with something like this. The other stuff are consequences of these basic things. Intelligent, caring, introvert people often feel like they are being used thus they need a lot of caring too. They also tend to have problems with communicating. This also leads to being hard to open up and being quite sensitive. I have read the description of those clubs and they were just too perfect. Even characters which should have a negative agenda are listed like heroes of their group and positive features are exaggarated. Pride and selfishness is advocated and tributed in a few of those clubs because the characters are lovable in other aspects of them. This told me your friend is a naive person, and naive, introvert, sensitive people are quite unstable emotionally.
This is the way I could give you this description.


She was quite in a shock. She jokingly told me that now she would be afraid to tell or show me anything because I would see right through her. I told her not to worry about it because I already do :D

I know it's not a really great report because it is about a girl who is already my girlfriend, but I just can't help it. I'm a loyal type. More than nothing, at least. I won't really meet my girl any time soon, if I happen to have another opportunity I will definitely write a repot about it too.

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The Island

So this happened yesterday. I was yet again, chatting with my girlfriend and she had quite a horrible day. I noticed her replies are short and the messages overall conveyed a disturbing vibe so I asked what was the problem and she told me some bitch made her day at work and she couldn't really calm down since. She was so sweet, told me if I were there it would be easier, so I thought I would try my best.

I invented this routine and it's completely free to use, though there are quadrillion of others that are very similar because it's just very basic, simple NLP stuff. Note that I used a few direct suggestions in the beginning because it's my girlfriend... I have quite a rapport with her. Also, this was on facebook. My experience is that if I'm not there in person, direct suggestions work better.

Here's the routine:

Close your eyes, and imagine you're on an island. Imagine this island being as calm as possible. Now you can walk around this island and pay close attention to every detail of it. How the touch of things feel, what you see, smell, and hear(this was adjusted to order of importance of her perception). Also concentrate on what emotions are evoked by the place itself. Now you can immerse in this fantasy for a brief few minutes, and if you think you have explored every bit of piece of the island you may open your eyes and begin to describe it to me.

/Here she gave a description about the island/

Now note and pay close attention to the more important parts of the island. The cottage, the garden, and the coast(these were mentioned in her descritpion). Pay extremely close attention to the very last details of these and the ambiance of them. Observe the route you can go from one of these posts to another. As you walk around try to find the point where you feel the calmest on the entire island.

/Her: Got it!/

Okay now you can listen carefully and focus your attention on what and how you perceive here. How do things feel, what you see, what smells are present, and what sounds do you hear. Try to fix this picture in your mind as a complex. Everytime you feel nervous you may now go back to this exact place and find calmness. You may notice how remembering this picture your entire body is filled with a feeling of calm.


This was it. It worked pretty well. The entire vibe she was communicating via her messages were much calmer and I could communicate better with her overall. I know this pattern has a lot of flaws, but as it's quite innocent, it can't really do much harm, it worked to some extent and it was a great practise too.

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The drawbacks of NLP

Today I'm going to talk about why this stuff can be dangerous, and how cautious you must be when using it. Have I given it more thought, it would have saved me a brief hour of unnecessary shitstorm.

I told my girlfriend about NLP and that if she agreed to it, I could practise a little. She was astonishingly curious about it, and wanted to know everything, so I told her why it was good, why it could be bad, and what I was planning to do with her(nothing in particular, just practising basic anchors). She did her reading though, and discovered how powerful this stuff really can be...

A little background before I go into the main line of the story. My girlfriend is really sweet but she has quite a low self-esteem because she's very conscious about her looks(slightly chubby, almost completely my type though...) Adding to this her past boyfriends only wanted to use her and never really loved her doesn't really help at all... From time to time when some other things contribute to this, she can get hysteric and cry about how she doesn't understand why am I with her in the first place when she's giving me nothing in return for all the good things I brought into her life. Of course if this were true I wouldn't be with her in the first place, but it's quite hard to make her understand this for some reasons. The other day she asked about what arouses me so she could surprise me on occasions, and I mentioned a few simple things like not wearing underwear below her skirt and doing a little strip dance for me. The first came out really well, but this second made her a bit insecure because of her body. Eventhough I reassured her that I find her very attractive, since she's not quite satisfied with herself she told me she would give it some thought first. I didn't really care about this, and it was way before I mentioned her NLP.

Now back on to the story...

So she was at mine and she asked me if I could make her behave like a whore without limits for me with NLP. I personally didn't like this idea so much, considering how this can backfire in a thousand different ways, but I knew that with my skills I wouldn't be able to fuck many things up, it might not work at all anyway, and I would be extremely cautious with my patterns. I told her that since she never really behaved without limits this might be a bit difficult, because at first she needed to identify how does it feel like to behave like that, and when she understands the feeling completely, only then can I elicit it. This was a minute before we decided we would take a shower(not together... this is a dormitory with only 2 bathrooms for each floor, it might have gotten quite inconvenient if someone had walked in on us). I told her almost these exact words:

"Babe, while you're in the shower think about what limits you the most to behave without limits. The more reasons you can identify, the better, but try at least three"

So we'd gone to have a shower and after we'd returned I saw that something was wrong, that she felt sad. I started asking about what the problem was and she was just repeating "Just a moment..." as an answer and I saw her breathing became heavier like she was struggling. She started crying and this lasted for a little while when she finally got herself together and started to explain the problem to me. At this point I really had no idea what was going on and she scared me a little with this behaviour.

She told me that she was starting to think about what was limiting her and the first thing she could come up with was her looks. She couldn't get the thought out of her head though and started pumping herself up until the point when she ended up in that, for me, well known state where she felt unworthy for me. I conforted her for a while and she finally calmed down. Of course this entire misery could have been avoided if I had been more careful...

Lesson learned. I will never leave my NLP target again telling her to think about things like this without being there and real-time checking her thought patterns.

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Duude, you still learning that Speed Seduction? :D You sly bastard..hehe..just kidding. It's that damn "playful vibe" that Ross teaches, it's not me, I swear!

Hit me up on Facebook, bro. 8)

https://www.facebook.com/wade.w.wilson.58

Why? FUCK forums, instant messenger communication is WAY faster! I also have a group on Facebook dedicated to pick up artistry and some of my members in there are Speed Seduction students as well. The only caveat to joining this group is that it requires infield footage from it's members once every 2 months without any regards to "skill level"; however, I'm NOT asking you to join my Facebook group, I'm only asking you to add me as a friend on Facebook. But, if you wish to join the group eventually, that's no problem either.

I've got the 2011, 2012, and 2013 Speed Seduction seminars so I can tell you a thing or two about speed seduction. Plus, here's me actually implementing it's strategies infield:

http://www.seduction.com/blog/awesome-student-sarge/
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Experiment Time

Hi Everyone. This is going to be an experiment. It happened, that a couple of days ago me and my roommate got quite wasted. I hit up his cousin on facebook, and I started messaging her crazy stuff. My roommate was literally laughing his ass off while I was basically gaming his cousin. After this happened, a few days later I talked with her again on fb. My roommate was again here. This time, it disturbed me a little bit that he was there because I was not pissed drunk. So I kept a lower tone this time with her. Now after all this I figured this would be an interesting experiment. Though I'd have to manipulate a little before I can start it. That's going to be interesting too. I'll explain now what my plan is.

Basically, my roommate's cousin also didn't like the idea that he was watching our flirting. So I'm going to have to get him out of the picture completely. I will tell him and her two slightly different things.

I'm going to tell my roommate that his cousin is great experiment material(actually he already laughed about this, and enjoyed my activities...) and that I want to test something. That something will be that I'm gonna hit her up again, and tell her not to talk about it to him. And I'm curious whether she'd shut her mouth, or not. Now this will make my roommate think that he is part of my experiment but in reality he's not. I will hit up his cousin and I will tell her not to talk about it about him. And then whether she shuts it or not, I will know about it. I will convince her to not talk to him about it, because I know that his crazy experiments weird her out too. And if she's relyable, then my roommate won't screw it for me. And now the interesting part of the experiment:

I have clearly shown 2 very different "Me"s to her. So now what I'm going to try is to show her "someone else" every time we meet or talk. I'm wandering how this will affect her emotions and feelings. Will it be beneficial, or counterproductive? How long can this be maintained and what are the later effects? There are a whole lot of other questions this would answer, if I could proceed with it.

I will keep you updated about how this is going.

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Reporting.

I've managed to project a 3rd personality now, completely different, than the first two. It seemed to open her up pretty fast, and well. Though next time I will give her a harder time, the 4th one she would see of me would be more sexual.(So far the 1st was very sexual, the second was moderately sexual, this 3rd one was not that sexual, more romantic, and so now for the next one I will try combining sexual and romanctic. It's hard when you're trying to project these personalities on purpose lol. I prefer it naturally, though this is just too interesting to stop it.)

Here's the entire convo today:
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Me: びぁんかちゃん

Her: What does this mean?

Me: It's your name, Bianka chan.

Her: It looks awesome. Thanks.

Me: What bad have you been up to?

Her: Not much. I woke up at 11:15 am

Me: I woke up at 1:15 pm. Did I win?

Her: Took the dog for a walk and watched movies.
Yep, you did :)
But I didn't want to sleep so long.

Me: Neither did I, I just woke up at 9:30 and then fell asleep again.
But it was so good. Again, I realized I was dreaming but didn't wake up. When this happens I can control it.

Her: What was your dream?

Me: I can't recall everything, but at first it was cold and winter, and I didn't like that so I changed it to warm summer. Then I was with some old friends and old schoolmates having beers at the beach. Then I felt something weird that I can't really explain. Usually it doesn't happen when I'm between sleep and awake, but I sort of felt like it's hard to believe I'm dreaming, altough I was sure I did. But not long after that I woke up anyway.

Her: Sometimes similar things happen to me too. Though I can hardly control it.

Me: I haven't met much people who are capable of this, though I know I'm not alone with it.

Her: Of course you're not.

Me: It's the little things like this that I value most. They're not the most important things in life, but without them it would be so boring.

Her: Yeah, and I'm getting better at reading people recently. I'm,so proud of myself then ^^ Maybe I'm special too.

Me: Why not?

Her: I don't know. I have never known anything.

Me: Never known what? Reading people?

Her: No, I'm sure this has been inside me, but recently it seemed to come to the surface.

Me: Ahh, I see. Well it's similar with me. After I left highschool and came here things got very different. I started valuing different things, got surrounded with very different people and my personality grew a lot. I'm so happy I came here. I really feel my life is rich now.

Her: Me too.
I think it was my break-up that caused this.

Me: Those change lot of things. Both of my break-ups were turning point in my life. Thankfully, always in the good direction. It brings and shows you a new way, you meet new people, you get new values.

Her: Exactly

Me: And new experiences.
What was the most determinative thing that happened to you here? After, I'll tell you mine :P

Her: But you have been here for a longer while.

Me: Aaaaaand then?

Her: I've had many pleasant experiences by the way.

Me: How long are you going to make me wait for it?

Her: For example, I think I found my best friend and I got closer to my cousin too.

Me: Yeah mine involve my best friend too. I met him here and the most impressive thing for me was that after my break-up he offered me to stay at their's until I can solve the room-change at the dorm. We had lots of fun, and we learned a lot from each other. Unfortunately, our laziness was also summed, but it was aweomse anyway.

Her: Friends are important. Mine is a guy...by the way. I went to Repeta with him to eat gyros, but before that we had a horrible hot chocolate at the mall XD (Note: Poor friend-zoned guy)

Me: Sounds fun :D

Her: And... I have some others too.

Me: Well, same here. Joint epic fails at exams, and cheerful successes, night-outs, playing pool, drinkings. This last four year of mine was as colourful as a caleidoscope.

Her. I don't regret that I came here.

Me: Me neither, though I wanted to go to Budapest, I didn't get in. I'm so glad.

Her: Same here, though I wanted to go to Győr instead.

Me: Oh I have friends there. They study Arts here. I got high for the first time with them.

Her: Nice.

Me: I loved them. They're always cheerful(yes, even sober) They're pretty abstract beings but really unique and cool people. I had lots of pleasant time with them. And at one time, I asked one to help me because I was supposed to play at the Xmas party at the Uni. Though that didn't quite work out, I had to back off because I could only practise once a week, and it wasn't enough.

Her: What would have been your show?

Me: I would have played the piano for the uni chore.

Her: You play the piano? :O

Me: I do, but unfortunately I don't have time. I was told at the music school :"Don't you dare stop it", but I only have time to play when I'm at home. And that's rare.
I've been playing since I was 9, by the way.

Her: Do you know lots of pieces?

Me: From sheets, I think with a day or two practise I would be able to recall most of them. Especially Chopin. I loved to play Chopin.

Her: :)

Me: Though I'm not the "on-stage" type. I mostly like to play for myself or close friends. Not because I have stage fright, but because I don't feel the need to show myself off like this.

Her: I could tell that you're not the "on-stage" type.

Me: Well thanks XDD

Her: No, I didn't mean it as something negative.

Me: I know, I was just kidding.

Her: Snap it!

Me: Hmm-hmm? Snap what? You can convince me what to snap, but I would have to know what it is first (I like Zacher cake a lot :P )

Her: Then snap that.

Me: Great. When do you make me some?

Her: After I passed biochemistry XD

Me: So I help you with Biochemistry and you cook me cake. Deal!

Her: But I think I can only do that like I cook it at home, and then bring it there.
But a deal it is.

Me: Awesome, now I go and snap some Neuroanatomy as appetizer because I have an exam to pass too.
Bye-Bye Bianka-chan

Her: Okay, bye bye.
So this is it so far. I think I have managed to build a connection here and with being overly sexual at first, and now this, I wonder how will it affect the whole thing that I bring sexuality back the next time. Since I have no real intention of banging her, I could fuck it up all day, and I don't really care, this is just a funny and interesting experiment. Though I'm not sure how will I manage physical escalation without really getting into it in person, but that's going to be the story of next week when we'll meet anyway :D

EDIT: I forgot to mention how thin the ice under me really is. First of all, I have a girlfriend. So my moves are quite limited from this aspect. The other thing is that my roommate has a little conspiracy and namely, I'm part of it. Technically (we) he wants to get her and a common friend together. Now I don't want that yet to happen, because it would ruin the fun for me. I know from my roommate that she's an extraordinarily loyal girl and I drew the consequence that she would not take me seriously so I wouldn't be able to build so much effect on her. Now on the other hand I also don't want to bust my friend's balls. I know he's into this chick though he doesn't quite know about our conspiracy. He is a very unique guy, but sadly he sucks with women. I just have to stay between this "she wants me"- "she doesn't want me" line all the way, throughout this experiment and that will be quite a challenge. I wonder if I can pull that off, lol.

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Reporting. Everything is going according to plan. The girl is not into me, and responds very differently to the different personas I present. On Thursday my roommate and her will visit me to study some Biochemistry. I don't yet have a next plan for that. We'll see about it. The project is nearing its end anyway because I'm starting to exhaust the possibilities that exclude her being into me, which is not at all my intention. I don't want to play with people's feelings. Here's our convo today:

Note: Don't try this at home, kids. I was running some serious shit here. I'm actually really glad that she is not quite into me, otherwise this convo would have caused some trouble regarding that I have a girlfriend, and that we have some other plans for this girl.
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Me: Hello, Bianka-chan

Her: Hi, Szebi chan

Me: kun
chan is only used for women

Her: Sorry XD

Me: Say, I had a dream about you. This time though I couldn't control it because I didn't realize it was a dream, it was very realistic.

Her: Oh, God :D And what was it?

Me: It was like in the movies. I was at a wedding, and I was the groom. Everyone was dressed up nicely and I was standing in the middle of the room suited-up. Sweaty hands, every moment felt like an eternity. Suddenly, I heard the door open and the bride came out in her beautiful white dress. Everyone looked there, and for a second, time completely froze. They were coming at me slowly, and altough at first I didn't see your face, I could somehow feel it that you were there. As you came closer, I recognized your face. You winked at me to tell me this is my great moment. Looking at your sexy dress I had some sinful thoughts. You'd make a really cute bridesmaid. And then the bride arrived at my side. She stepped in front of me and I started to lift up her veil, but before I could see her face I woke up.

Her: Wow... You're not complete XD By the way I was a bridesmaid once, but it was long ago.

Me: I AM not complete? It was YOU who entered my head.

Her: Yeah, I was planning this for a week... it was difficult to get in, believe me.

Me: I thought so. At least you don't deny it. Well don't bother, it was a really nice wedding. It's a shame that we'll never know who the bride was.

Her: That's because you don't yet know who she will be :)

Me: That's true, but I quite know what she would be like so, it's still weird that she was so impersonal.

Her: I think not. I have tons of dreams with people without faces. It's because you don't yet know who they are... I guess.

Me: Okay, miss. I see you're quite the expert here. So what else could you tell from my dream?

Her: Why would I be the expert? It's just experience.

Me: I was starting to think you're reading some books on dreams. Well anyway, it was not the looks and her face that bothers me, but that I couldn't tell anything else either. I mean, really it would be weird in reality, but in a dream it would be perfectly fine that she is standing there with a cake in her hand. At least I could tell that she could cook well. Or anything subtle other than this. You get me?

Her: Well this dream didn't want to reveal much. I just think it's mysterious that I was in it.

Me: You admitted it was on purpose minutes ago. Can't trick me now.

Her: That was just a joke XD

Me: Sure, that's what I'd say too. Now I know what your role was. You were the little devil that was trying to seduce me. That's why you were winking at me.

Her: Haha, I didn't intend to seduce you :$

Me: Well you wouldn't have much chance until I taste that cake anyway.

Her: Then I guess, you'd have to wait until february.

//Okay this was the point that I put an end to this. I was getting some weird feelings, and it just didn't feel good to push it anymore. I'm not that sure about that I don't have a chance, eventhough she says so. And I want to keep it that way. She can't help but think about this later and who the hell knows what that will do? It's about time to go back to safety. //

Me: Time goes by fast when you're studying Neuroanatomy.

Her: Yes, you have to pass.

Me: Well, I must. But that cake just adds one more motivation.

Her: Great!

Me: Now I'm going back to study. But I warn you, if tonight I find you in my head again, then grrrr*. Bye Bia-chan.
*(this sounds more funny in hungarian, we have a little funny word "irgum-burgum" that's a joking "ahh, you so bad")

Her: Have fun! And I can't help it :D
So this is it for now. I'll keep this updated until it is worth it to continue the experiment.

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Reporting...

I am in the danger zone right now. Today me and my roommate was at her place to study biochemistry. It's getting suspicious and I don't like it.

You know guys, I can't really describe this in words, but I'm sure many of you can relate. When a woman is smiling at you. There are just different smiles. You have the simple smile, and "that smile". Today she could barely look at me withoug giving me "that smile". You don't need to tell me "Come on dude, that's like nothing..." I know it is nothing serious yet, but I also know that I must be extremely cautious from now on. I have some bad experience with these kinds of experiments. Sometimes I get so caught in the moment that I actually forget that I'm not trying to get the girl(damn you extravert intuition...) This has happened with two other experiment material girls so far in the past, and both were really close calls. So now for the third time I'm trying to pay more attention to this in order to not repeat those awkward moments I really don't need...

I think I might ask my roommate to talk to his cousin about this to make sure whether it's just my imagination and getting used to always assuming attraction, or if it's real. I would ask it myself, but first thing is that she would most likely not reply honestly(since I have a gf) and secondly it would kind of ruin this experiment, so we'll see about that. Tomorrow we'd meet again(for biochemistry again, as usual. It's even hard to believe for me, but I just can't stop flirting even when the topic is so boring, lol).

I also have to admit that as bad as it is, I'm getting a bit excited because of the things getting more critical... I'm always up for challenges and for a long time, walking on such a thing line IS challenging enough, even for me.

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