Hi guys !

All my life i've been coming in one small town near the coast during my summer breaks.
3 years ago i've met a girl who also comes there from Austria (her mom and dad moved there when she was little).
During last 2 summers I was fat so it goes without saying that I wasn't brave or cocky enough to make a move.
So pretty much it was all about chatting on a beach and automaticlly being friendzoned . We would hang out every year for a month-month and a half.
Like in every cheesy movie I discovered gym and all there is to know about grooming so i got my ego boost, went in the field and got some phone numbers and rejections

I wanted to tell you all that because I wanted for you to understand the whole story.
My questions are very simple.
Can I destroy that 2 year friendzone and build myself an one-flirty-naked-month-zone and for the love of god how ?
Thanks

Good to hear about your life turnaround man, keep it goin.

I wish this was a black and white situation, man...it would make all of our lives easier. BUT.

How men tend to think:

No girl you are attracted to is ever legitimately "friendzoned" by you (MOST cases). As Chris Rock said, "Men don't have platonic friends, they just got friend that they haven't fucked yet." And by and large, this is true.

Women, on the other hand, value different things. Its far more likely that a woman will friendzone a man and never sleep with him, than the other way around. A man will rarely pass up an opportunity.

Having said that, women will rationalize why they should see you as a different person when you walk up with washboard abs and a nice tan. I shouldn't even say women, all humans change their tune when they see something attractive.

So is it possible to break out of the friend zone? YES. But its going to take a full scale effort because being a little skinnier than before will not change her frame of mind. You gotta look GOOD, AND the evolution of your looks needs to coincide with the evolution of the rest of your game. You can't look better but still sound needy and weak, for example.

What she'll be looking for is how you are around people. Are you alpha? Are you calm and patient so that the conversation comes to you rather than you overcompensating? You need to be the engaging, mysterious dude. Almost like you left the country, got a ton of wisdom and knowledge and now you're back a better man. If she is attracted enough to you, she will find reasons to re-evaluate. Give her those reasons.

Hope this helps.

Ry

Truer words were never spoken...
Must prepare my A game for summer

Thanks alot man, really !

Hi again !

I didn't want to start another topic for the same girl (God forgive me ).

So here's the story.
Since college started for me i didn't had much time to operate as much as i wanted to. Anyway, she's impressed with body transformation. I took advice about being cool guy from another planet and it worked because she thinks that i am ladies man.
When i saw her for the first time i was with my cousin, she said that she has 2 bottles of vodka, i said that we will drink as soon as i pass my exams. She didn't bring that out to my cousin or anyone else until i saw her for the second time.
I assumed that she wanted to be alone with me and the bottles but boy was i wrong.
She invited the other 2 people who were sitting with us to come at her place. I said politely that i won't come because i want to be with her not the others... I contacted her that night assuming they are drinking but turns out she canceled whole thing because i didn't want to come.

Questions :
1) Can anyone explain to me why did she wanted to bring others ?
2) Is there any recovery because she's pissed and she's in country for next 12-14 days ?

Sorry about my grammar mistakes

Judging by the information provided, it looks like she may have cancelled because you weren’t going to be there. Which leads me to believe (if I’m being really positive), that she was too embarrassed to have you there alone, so she brought other people to ease the tension.
To that, you said no, “I want to be with you.”

This can go in two directions:
A. She likes that you are being very clear about how you feel about her
B. She’s like WTF.

So did you guys talk after the cancellation? Has she reached out to you at all since?
If she hasn’t, or if the interaction hasn’t been very positive, then you can probably assume you lost her.
Don’t even worry about it. There’s nothing you can do anyways, right? Even if you thought you bagged her, there’s no promise that she isn’t banging a male model in Cabo.

If there is a recovery, focus on it when she gets back. OR, you get some dialogue going prior to her leaving so you can soften the negativity of that failed get-together. Regardless, there are no promises that she won’t venture off. So don’t worry about it!