So my friend and I have recently gotten into fairly intense arguments with two females in our milieu about the ethics or morality behind the seduction community. Somehow they found out about Style, read some stuff, and found out that we were involved with this. One of the girls is an HB7 and the other is an HB8 and they are possible targets, but it would be difficult to assuage their feelings for the situation without some good points about pickup. I have tried saying that it helps build male confidence and crap like that but I hasn't worked. Any good points or suggestions I cold use?

ok Ive got a debate for you?

What would be better to fuck two hb5s or 0ne hb10?

To Slight: one HB10.

To B.T.: Sounds like the two girls you are arguing with don't actually know anything about the community. It's not about finding faster ways into women's panties. It's not about changing guys into something they're not. And it's most definitely not about lying to women strictly to get laid.

It's about guys learning to socially interact with the opposite sex, and have their intentions made clear to the women they interact with. In that regard, it's about those guys who wouldn't normally have a shot with any women due to their own self-confidence finding a way to demonstrate to those women that they are indeed good mate material. It's about people developing social skills. Ultimately, it's about keeping the interaction between men and women fun, while at the same time ensuring that said interaction is truly honest (after the false disqualifiers no longer apply anyway ).

If these girls truly thing there is something wrong with guys wanting to learn the confidence necessary to get a girlfriend (or whatever they are seeking), then that really kind of begs the question, why do they believe that not everyone deserves the right to find happiness with a mate?

why try and use excuses? its like admitting you have done something wrong and trying to correct it. (BEING NEEDY ALSO)

just pretend nothings happened and carry on, don't take their shit seriously. Act like nothings wrong, have the stronger frame so your reality is projected onto them.

tell yourself "these interogations are stupid"
"they are making me feel i am in the wrong to make themselves feel better"
"I don't NEED these girls"
"there are plenty of others who arent uptight"
"these girls know I'm doing nothing wrong, they just like to feel powerful"
"I know what they are trying to do, I wont stand for it"
"I wont let them manipulate me"
"I wont let them make me feel bad"
"I wont give them the satisfaction of feeling pride when they walk away with their heads held high with me begging for forgiveness"


When they say "you aint worth it" say "bye then"
when they say "im not shaggng you now" say "dont then "

DONT EVER LET THEM THINK THEY HAVE "taught you a lesson"

First off why validate yourself to these close minded chicks?

As Chris Rock would say everything about them is fake...

What u need to do is turn it around on them and make them seem like the ones who are odd for not being a part of it.

We have women who are part of this community, and game better then the majority of us. Are they wrong to be here? Of course not.

If you feel so inclined to "educate" these close minded chicks. Explain to them that one of the communities biggest moto's is "Leave em better then you found em". Also point out that meeting women is only a very small part of the whole, and that some guys do this to have better work lives, or simply better social interaction with friends and family.

If they still are bent then simply tell em to go fuck off...if by this point they arent seeing things in the right light they never will.

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-Ka-
"Be the same, only better."

Yeah I'm done talking about it to them. there are plenty of other girls, and I don't need to wast my time explaining myself to them, but thanks for the advice.