hello. im not new to the PUA scene at all. ive read all the books and watch all the videos. what i have a question about is opening up on the street. i always see a cute girl walking when im on my way to the store or a friends house. anyone have any advice of how to start talking to a girl as youre walking by her on the street without seeming predictable or creepy?

You've just asked a question that has been asked over 10x on this forum. Use the search function and type in street game. But just to answer your question, a simple good morning how are you with a warm smile can spark interesting conversations

A few general ways to approach:

"Hey."

A question: "excuse me, do you know where I can find (commonly known place)." --- a lot of PUAs use this and quickly transition into a real conversation, but they think quick and have good timing.

Direct: "I just wanted to come over and say hi because I must say that you look unique - I'm really digging your style."

"Alison! What's uuu---ooh you're not Alison."


Good eye contact and a warm smile will instantly make any approach better.

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No the worst thing you can do in daygame is ask where to find somewhere or even open with "excuse me". They will automatically think you just want to find the place you mentioned and therefore usually reject you on that. Likewise if you open with "excuse me" they will automatically think you are going to ask them for money because that is what beggars open with. I have had a few women cut me off after opening with "excuse me" immediatly saying: "I haven't got any change mate". I then have to start again and its much harder. No open strongly with something like, "Hello I literally just saw you and thought you looked really nice in that outfit" or something similar. In street game I have found after doing hundreds and hundreds of approaches that it is best to be honest and direct. Being indirect in street game is more likely to get you blown out than being direct and the worst thing is the women will blow you out because they think you either want something from them, want to sell them something or want them to tell you where somewhere is". But I have rarely ever been blown out for hitting on women in the street or in any other daytime location. That is because women are rarely ever approached during the daytime for romantic reasons. But they are approached a lot for other reasons. Infact the average woman will never been approached in her entire lifetime during the daytime for romantic reasons so they are not expecting it. That is why you have to be totally clear about your intentions. Here is a good example video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpsk8l86BZ4 But he does make the stupid mistake of saying "excuse me" and initially gets a rejection. But he persists. That is why it is best never to open with "excuse me" at all. But the rest of his video is good sound street game.

Thank you Goldsword for your help.
Could you write here some direct and honest openers that worked for you?

i've got some reallly strong daygame openers, but im not sharing lol i dont want all u puas killing my lines. what I will say though is direct and indrect can both work depending on the type of girl and your image. for instance i've opened with "excuse me" many times and had good results, but i do agree that on the whole direct is better as you dont need to waste as much time chatting shit and most girls (especially the ones that dont get hit on in the street very often) respect when you have the balls to be direct with them as it instantly sets u apart from most of the other afcs who just stare and carry on walking (no offence lol).

some really obvious direct openers:

slutty girl or average girl: "sorry, but you look HOT! what's ur name?" this is good coz u immediately know if they are interested by their reaction. the slutty girl doesnt want to beat around the bush, she wants u to be a man and dominate her. the average girl is valiidated - you just made her year! lol

i learnt this the hard way by trying to be indirect with a slutty girl and she straight up just turned around and said: "look, if u like me why dont u just say it!". lol

bear in mind, the slutty girl is more likely to use the bitch shield (as she probably gets comments like that alot) and she wants to see if ur the real deal - whatever she says, dont let it phase u at all, just keep showing interest and lol at her attempts to neg u and actually compliment her on her negs:

her: "wow, that's original"
me: "yeah, originality is my speciality. so when we linking?"
her: " how about never?"
me: "sorry, i cant do never, but i can probably pencil u in for next week!"
her: "i dont think so"
me: "i think so"
her: "wow, ur so persistant"
me: "yeah, i have really good stamina too!" (dont wink lol)
her "really?"
me: "look stop playin. u know i like u so lets get to the part where u give me ur number"

DO NOT for one second get defensive as she will interpret that as weakness! this shit is pretty advanced tho so i wouldnt recommend trying this until ur innergame is rock solid. since ur worried about appearing "creepy" that tells me ur not quite there yet. also remember there is a very fine line between being cocky and confident and just being a cock.

decent looking good girl: "sorry, but i have to talk to you - you are absolutely beautiful! (smiling) what's ur name?" unlike the slutty girl she wants romance so the overtly sexual approach could backfire as she may be put off by it. better to go with the sweeping her off her feet angle.

indirect approach works too: the oldie, "excuse me do you know where blah blah is?" does work! the trick is to quickly transition into general convo and throw in an IOI for example:

her: sends IOI smile, prolonged eye contact or whatever
me: excuse me, do you know where <ENTER SOMEWHERE REALLY OBVIOUS HERE> is?
her: yeah, it's right across the street!
me: wow, i'm an idiot! lol (fake confused look, tilts head) u know who u look like?
her: no, who?
me: have u seen <MOVIE SHE HAS NEVER HEARD OF lol>?
her: no.
me oh okay, there's this actress in it, but i forget her name... she's stunning! u look like her twin sister! lol (smile)
her: (lols) really? (smiles, plays with hair or whatever...)
me: yeah, for sure. listen i'm really gutted coz ive gota be somewhere right now but I actually wana chat with you for a bit... maybe we can chat another time?
her: okay
me: okay, cool, let me grab ur number and I'll hola at u 2moro or somthing
her: (smiling) okay
done
OR
her (she has a bf): sorry, i dont give out my number
me: no probs, give me ur facebook, i'll friend u (most will go for this as they can keep it undercover)
OR
her: sorry, I have a bf
me: no probs, I'll friend u on facebook - ur allowed friends right? (smiling) lol

personally, after the opener, i never use canned material - i just like to go with the flow. whenever i watch someone doing canned shit it just looks and feels really awkward. better to learn to just flow i think - its realler and makes the game more fun. but each to their own i suppose.

good luck bro

By the way has anyone ever seen the 1987 film the Pick up artist? The guy in that film has good strong way of approaching and never gets mistaken for being anything else other than a guy who is hitting on them by the women he approaches. You can watch it for free here: http://viooz.co/movies/4939-the-pick-up ... -1987.html But unfortunatley he does make one major mistake which is to walk alongside the women he approaches. It is far better to open and then stand still and continue talking after making an initial approach, or do no more than one re-opener if the first approach goes well and gets a good response but the woman continues to walk on.

I think direct openers tend to work best during the day time

You want to be genuine and make your intent quite clear

"Hey. I know this is really awkward, but something about you caught my eye, and I'd really like to get to know you better. I need to go back to a business meeting, but I'd love to grab a cup of coffee with you. What's your number?"

This is a really good point - if you're walking along side her it can make you look try-hard and desperate. That said, rules are made to be broken - so experiment as your milegae may vary!
Why not try to approach her while trying to appear "creepy"? lol Personally, I routinely try to take myself out of my comfort zone by breaking ALL the rules! lol

I'll give you a quick example.

Monday: See pretty chick in park smoking. Ignored her. was just chilling.

Tuesday: Saw the same chick in the park sunbathing. I'm about 25 meters away from here. Didn't bother trying to approach, but saw some dudes try and fail.

Wednesday: Saw her in a secluded part of the same park sunbathing TOPLESS (which is extremely rare in that park).

So I thought, I know this chick isn't easy because the way she shut down the other dudes was straight up cold! BUT, at the same time, I know she is a little slut who wants to get fucked! lol

So, I decided to break all the rules and just see what happens! lol

Bear in mind she had showed me zero IOIs and plenty of IODs.

me: walks past close up like a perve looking out the corner of my eyes at her tits. (she has shades on but shes sees me)
me: sits about 10 - 15 meters away just staring at her tits lol (i know im supposed to make the move fast so this is full of fail in my book)
her: looks at me like wtf???
me: sits there enjoying the view (like a creepy perve lol)
her: slides her top on and then gets a phone call.
me: waits for phone call to end (i should have interrupted her phone call too but the test was hard enough for me already)
me: walks up to her thinking what's the worst line i could come up with?
her: looks at me like "please fuck off"
me: "sorry, but I couldn't help staring at your tits" lol (sometimes your lines can be so bad that they're actually good lol coz i think this conveyed to her that i truly dont give a fuck - I can guarantee nobody has ever approached her and said that before!)
her: you never seen a pair of tits before?
me: yeah, i seen quite a few. thats the funny thing about it.
her: listen, im misanthropic so could you please leave me alone.
me: wow, thats a long word. what does that mean?
her: it means i dont like people
me: okay, we have something in common then coz i dont like people either! lol
her: lols
me: so whats ur name?
her: blahblah (cant remember lol)
me: (pre-prepared) you know what blahblah, I've seen you three days running in this park and each time i've seen you you've had less and less clothes on, I'm hoping by tomorrow you're gona be completely naked! (smiles)
her: (silence) nice.
me: lol hey, i thought that was a good one! lol
her: (lols and smiles) wow, you dont give up do you?
me: you have no idea babe, I'm EXTREMELY persistent! (holds eye contact)
me: I knew you wouldn't be easy anyway.
her: how?
me: I saw you shut down some dudes yetserday lol
her: haha u saw that??
me: yh, i was watching from faraway, but I could tell. I told my dude "there is no way them dudes are getting thru" lol
her: yh, just like everybody in this park huh? lol
me: hahaha
me: I like u man - ur different.
her: smiles.
me: I'll tell u what gime ur num and we'll keep in touch - I think theres a reason I keep seeing you - we'll call this "business networking" lol
her: i dont give out my num, but I'll take urs.
me: nah 4get it then, I only exchange numbers - i dont give mine without receiving.
her: okay then u can take my email - thats more professional anyways.
me: okay cool

later found out she has a kid and lives with her dude (hence the reluctance to give out her number). actually bumped into her when i was with my girl and she was with her man and my girl knew her! lol she played it like a pro tho and didnt say a word.

I didnt follow thru on it tho as it was just target practice - took myself outside my comfort zone to test myself.

im not a pua so i dont know all the techniques or anything, I just wanted to share some shit from the point of view of a natural. i have a 100 similar stories many of which are much more outrageous, like moving from a chick straight up telling me to "FUCK OFF" (in a night club) to a threesome with that same chick and her friend in under 3 hours. (both, undisputedly the hottest chicks in the club)

if theres one critcism i wud have of some in the pua community its that they tend to overcomplicate shit (especially the instructors). its really not rocket science. it just boils down to confidence and not being afraid to fail.

if u try to stop urself looking like a creep, u end up actually feeling like a creep and that shit will fuck up ur game - u can never know how someone else truly perceives u. just try ur best to have fun with it and dont be afraid to bend or completely break the "rules". as the old cliche goes "rules are made to be broken!"

good luck to all!

This is very strong. I like.

By the way the daygame blueprint video here contains a few useful tips on stopping and opening women in the street: http://daygameblueprint.com/shockandcontroversy/

im not a pua so i dont know all the techniques or anything, I just wanted to share some shit from the point of view of a natural. i have a 100 similar stories many of which are much more outrageous, like moving from a chick straight up telling me to "FUCK OFF" (in a night club) to a threesome with that same chick and her friend in under 3 hours. (both, undisputedly the hottest chicks in the club)

Hey man recently i went clubbing but i just couldn't get any girl to dance with me or talk to me! how do you do it? any tips? Some of them just pushed me away as i approached them!

Listen dude, I really wish I could help you, but I'm not qualified. As I said, I'm a natural, so I don't really overthink what I do - it's only recently that I have been learning the pua jargon for the stuff that I do and analysin the game a bit, but I still dont fully understand the dynamics of the game well enough to advise others.

My advice to you is to look thru posts on here and find people who seem to know what they are talking about and ask them - don't pay any money to learn this shit tho as its a con imo (sorry admins! lol)

I haven't really read many posts, but one of the people that made a very big impression on me is a guy called: Tr@veler.

member105474.html

This guy is fucking clinical! lol so I highly suggest you direct your question at him!

Sorry bro, but thats the best I can do. I only popped by to see whats up, but now I'm gone - things to see, people to do, etc... lol

Take care man and happy hunting!

the OMG opener (credit: Style). As you cross paths "OH MY GOD, where did you get that shirt? I was shopping with my sister for something like that in Xmas etc"

I like the idea of asking where somewhere is! A very nice way to start