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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:51 am 
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I really appreciate all your advice.

She has been brutally honest with me, answering every question I asked, to the point of making it worse for herself, but she wanted to tell me everything. There were some questions though that she couldn't, or wouldn't answer, regarding leading up to the sex because she couldn't remember due to alcohol. in one text she said "All I remember is having sex briefly and then totally freaking out. He was on drugs too so he had no idea where he even was". Think what you may but I believe her.

She also says she hasn't eaten since, feels ill whenever she thinks about it, and barely slept, which I am inclined to believe considering the texts I get from her throughout the night.

If I wanted her too I think she would do anything to fix what she did, shes already offered me, among other things, all her savings (over 15k) but I suggested that would be better spent on a psychologist. She has since seen a doctor to get a referral.
I think she has been honest with the cheating but isn't honest with the details. Dude, improve your bedroom skills. When you have done that, you can either stay with her or find a better girl who will give you less of the heartaches and headaches. Fix the bedroom skills part and you'll have lesser problems in the future.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:41 pm 
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Part of PUA is to show men that they don't have to forgive this kind of behavior.
Just found this part amusing, considering another part of PUA is that women in relationships are often easier to pick up... maybe Mystery walked up to this chick and ran some really good game! ;)


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:46 pm 
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To offer an alternative here, she could be polyamorous and not realize it. It might be worth discussing with her, finding out if she's cheated on people in the past and trying to figure out why it happens. If you'd ever want to be in an open relationship, maybe that would be an option with this girl.

That said, cheating is by definition dishonest. She told you she'd be monogamous with you, then betrayed you. The real question is, can you trust her again? That question goes either way, because she was dishonest about this she might be dishonest about other things as well.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:53 pm 
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He was on drugs too?
Fuck no, definate NO GO!!

Never telling what this dude has if he was a shooter...
Maybe, that stuff doesn't bother you but I know the real shit that happens with these kind of people, considering I work with them every day, due to being a law enforcement officer.

Just move on bro. I know it's hard but i'm sure you could get someone that looks better, and won't betray you and stick a dick in her just bc she was under the influence...

If you let her get away with this, 93% she will do it again...


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Part of PUA is to show men that they don't have to forgive this kind of behavior.
Just found this part amusing, considering another part of PUA is that women in relationships are often easier to pick up... maybe Mystery walked up to this chick and ran some really good game! ;)
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Im happy to hear all your opinions, makes me think my thoughts on this matter aren't so crazy. Still, I know part of it doesn't make sense. I appreciate the advice, but there certainly aren't any problems at all in the bedroom, I pride myself on being a talented and attentive lover. She genuinely seemed to really love me, and all her friends were constantly telling me on the side how I was the best thing that ever happened to her and how happy she was. Some of them were even worried I might take advantage of this.

I stalked this guy on fb and I can tell you, ordinarily I wouldn't have even considered him a threat. I like to believe myself as being quite good looking, and he was more towards the awkward and weird end of the spectrum. If he was on drugs, which as people said, isn't a comforting thought at all, then he likely didn't have much game. So why would she do it? Im thinking it was possibly a self esteem issue, self sabotage, thinking she didn't deserve me (which she frequently said, and how lucky she was), etc.

Still, I could be completely wrong.


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Man, don't ever get too comfortable in a relationship or have expectations. Always present your best self at all cost. I am sure you did that and she still went on and did something retarded. Like some posters have said, it is up to you. You can work it out, it can be done. At least she was honest about it. Will she cheat again? Who knows...

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You know, when i read these sort of threads, it makes me wonder. Often i see these girls that see their boyfriends as kings, the guy can't get any better.. but eventually they still disrespect them, be attention-whoring or cheating on them. Could it be that it's some kind of psychological defense mechanism? I sort of have the feeling that they are constantly pressured by expectations etc.. They figure they can't give you the same satisfaction, eventually they turn to other boys because they crave for the power they cannot get. If you say that this guy was absolutely no threat to you, it might just mean he was an easy way of getting her selfesteem up, or something similar. They might do this to feel better of themselves.

I'm in a same situation aswell, my girlfriend was so needy and clingy, super jealous and hated the fact that i wasn't. Always said she wasn't good enough for me, cried about it etc... Eventually i got the swing of the hammer aswell and she said she wasn't happy with me anymore. When i reread my texts between me and my girl to figure the problems out, it actually shocked me how much she isolated herself just to talk or be with me. I guess eventually they just struggle so much, they seek a way out of it.

What do you guys think?


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:06 am 
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Samurai, don't analyze this shit. You're not a psychologist and you're not her psychologist. Whoever the guy was, whatever her issues are, ARE NOT YOUR PROBLEM. She cheated on you purposefully...she took a druggie home and her friends didn't even stop it if she was drunk. She and they wanted this to happen, dont fool yourself. Maybe your dick is small, maybe her dad molested her when she was 6, maybe she's polyamorous or whatever....it doesn't matter. Unless you are writing a thesis on cheaters walk away. She WANTED to cheat and she did. Otherwise she would not have gotten drunk, she would not have invited him over and her friends would not have let her leave with him or stay alone with him. You've been played.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:00 am 
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You know, when i read these sort of threads, it makes me wonder. Often i see these girls that see their boyfriends as kings, the guy can't get any better.. but eventually they still disrespect them, be attention-whoring or cheating on them. Could it be that it's some kind of psychological defense mechanism? I sort of have the feeling that they are constantly pressured by expectations etc.. They figure they can't give you the same satisfaction, eventually they turn to other boys because they crave for the power they cannot get. If you say that this guy was absolutely no threat to you, it might just mean he was an easy way of getting her selfesteem up, or something similar. They might do this to feel better of themselves.
It doesn't take rocket science. Majority of women (80% is a lot) fake their orgasms, here: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162- ... 91704.html. Meanwhile, majority of men can't really tell when a woman is having an orgasm.

It's not just my personal experience with several dozen women I banged in the past. It's reality. Either the OP chooses to ignore this reality and then get cheated on again with a different girl or he takes charge of this aspect and be happier in his future relationships.

There are several other studies that say the same: Most women are not having any vaginal orgasm with their partners.

If you want to know how this feels like, bang a girl and then when you're about to cum, she pushes you away every time for 9 months. At the end of 9 months of consistent orgasmic failure and faking that everything is okay, you'll be a saint if you haven't cheated yet.

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Ya know, I hate to say this... But I suspect the OP's girlfriend has not always been popular with the guys. Perhaps ugly and/or fatty. I say this because her friends keep saying she's lucky to him. And when she's close to losing him, she goes into a complete psychological breakdown... A girl without LSE and with an abundance of guys flocking to her might have been depressed about the situation, but not to the point where she goes into a complete mental failure.

Perhaps a good reason for her to have had sex with another guy had to do with acceptance. Perhaps she simply wanted to know that there's just more than one guy out there that wants her... And the moment she knew he actually wanted to fuck her was only the moment he was actually fucking her.

My two cents.


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You know, when i read these sort of threads, it makes me wonder. Often i see these girls that see their boyfriends as kings, the guy can't get any better.. but eventually they still disrespect them, be attention-whoring or cheating on them. Could it be that it's some kind of psychological defense mechanism? I sort of have the feeling that they are constantly pressured by expectations etc.. They figure they can't give you the same satisfaction, eventually they turn to other boys because they crave for the power they cannot get. If you say that this guy was absolutely no threat to you, it might just mean he was an easy way of getting her selfesteem up, or something similar. They might do this to feel better of themselves.
It doesn't take rocket science. Majority of women (80% is a lot) fake their orgasms, here: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162- ... 91704.html. Meanwhile, majority of men can't really tell when a woman is having an orgasm.

It's not just my personal experience with several dozen women I banged in the past. It's reality. Either the OP chooses to ignore this reality and then get cheated on again with a different girl or he takes charge of this aspect and be happier in his future relationships.

There are several other studies that say the same: Most women are not having any vaginal orgasm with their partners.

If you want to know how this feels like, bang a girl and then when you're about to cum, she pushes you away every time for 9 months. At the end of 9 months of consistent orgasmic failure and faking that everything is okay, you'll be a saint if you haven't cheated yet.

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It's funny that you mention, i was recently at my friends house and we were talking about pick up, relationships etc.. It was me, my wingman and a couple of afc's. The afc's were constantly saying that what we do is wrong and that you should be sensitive, good talker etc. Then suddenly my mates mom comes and says. Fuck that, you think being a good listener will help you sustain a LTR? Being god in bed, that's what keeps women wrapped around your finger. Trust , emotions, things everyone talks about, that's extra when it's needed. Everyone was shocked, but i couldn't but smile at her words. BAM, right on the spot! Hah!


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Im happy to hear all your opinions, makes me think my thoughts on this matter aren't so crazy. Still, I know part of it doesn't make sense. I appreciate the advice, but there certainly aren't any problems at all in the bedroom, I pride myself on being a talented and attentive lover. She genuinely seemed to really love me, and all her friends were constantly telling me on the side how I was the best thing that ever happened to her and how happy she was. Some of them were even worried I might take advantage of this.

I stalked this guy on fb and I can tell you, ordinarily I wouldn't have even considered him a threat. I like to believe myself as being quite good looking, and he was more towards the awkward and weird end of the spectrum. If he was on drugs, which as people said, isn't a comforting thought at all, then he likely didn't have much game. So why would she do it? Im thinking it was possibly a self esteem issue, self sabotage, thinking she didn't deserve me (which she frequently said, and how lucky she was), etc.
It's interesting how we like to think that we actually give a shit about others and our interactions with them but all we ever do is use these things as a reference point to gauge where we stand.


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When i reread my texts between me and my girl to figure the problems out, it actually shocked me how much she isolated herself just to talk or be with me.?
Mayhem, what did you mean by she isolated herself just to talk or be with you?


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When i reread my texts between me and my girl to figure the problems out, it actually shocked me how much she isolated herself just to talk or be with me.?
Mayhem, what did you mean by she isolated herself just to talk or be with you?
Ignored her best friends texting her, didn't respond to people on facebook, said no to every offer she got to go out, kept calling me to come over, all of this, because she wanted to be with me. I am still shocked actually, decided to delete my messages, block her, unfriend her and everything because my mind is still blown by the change of hearts over a period of 1.5 weeks.


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