06/17/2013: Asian girls at Starbucks (fail)

I've been back and forth with gaming girls since 21. Finally moved in to NYC a few weeks back and want to get some lays before summer's end. Total time spent in the "game" mindset has been about 2 years. It really works, or at least if anything it gives you the confidence to know it's ok to approach girls. On more than one occasion I've had girls say they wish more guys would approach them.

On Monday after work I got home, changed, took a shower, and went out to study for the GMAT. First I went to Bryant Park to say hi to some friends and chat. Made eye contact with some girls, but no approaches. Despite some confidence boosts from having an "in" with some servers/bartenders in the area. Also had terrible AA. Then I went to k-town to find a place to sit and hopefully study/# close.

Approach #1: I went to the Starbucks near the Empire State building and spent 45 minutes on the ground floor studying when some Asian girl caught my eye. Couldn't focus haha. After a while I approached her saying, "Your pants match my shirt." She said she was from China and she didn't take too well to me talking to her ... just kept staring at her phone. Asked her if she wanted to go to Movie Night at the park ... again nothing. I ejected as nothing was there.

Approach #2: After leaving I went to another Starbucks on 5th and 37th I think, and saw a cute Asian girl dressed really well. So I asked her if I could sit at the table. I paid no attention to her and worked on some GMAT stuff, then 30 seconds later her bf approached. Made no conversation and after 15 minutes they left.

That was a lame Monday night. While I don't know the answer to what I could have done in both those situations ... if I had to guess maybe neg the first girl some more (which I did a bit saying "a cute guy approaches you and you just stare at your phone"). And for the second girl I could have brought her bf in to conversation. But that didn't feel right. Equally as important I have to approach more girls.

06/18/2013: Pre-date field report

While getting an eye exam I made some jokes at the assistant. Like "Woah, it's not that kind of party." And then later when an even cuter assistant came back I was like, "Was she waiting for me <pause> way to get my hopes up." Drew a laugh.

Later at night a had a date with a cougar (older woman in her 40s) and while waiting for her at a bar I hit on two women in their 30s. I was like "Why are women attracted to taller guys?" being tall this worked, they were all like, "Because there's not a lot of them." Then the cuter one I made some kino. I said, "Your tag is showing" Touched her back, leaned in and added, "it says made in heaven." She ate it up, but I had a date coming so I said I was waiting for someone (next time might make sense to number close before a date if she is running late haha).

Finally when my date arrived we drank, and I talked to some guy next to me who wound up buying us drinks. Also I k-closed the cougar ... but she put up serious walls/shit-test and we wound up not sleeping together. We were watching the Spurs/Heat game and after it was tied and went in to over time she was all like, "You don't have to stay if you don't want to." I did NOT want to so I left. We might see each other this Friday though. Who knows. Also made kino throughout the date. She paid for some drinks, as did I. So bills were split evenly.

06/19/2013: AFC no approaches

Today was a bad day. Got home from work, drank like 3 beers. Went skateboarding. Talked to my bartender friend (made the effort to go out) and then went back home. Passed out, had a chick call me (one I'm using to get in to clubs/maybe get with her friends) to hang out. Too tired so said no. Went back to bed. FML.

06/20/2013: called a girl I f-closed in the afternoon

F-closed this chick once last summer. Been on and off talking to her, finally called her at 2:30pm and made plans for Sunday. Then texted some chick who I met last summer as well. No response yet. And called and left a vm for a girl I met 2 weeks ago as I'm going out tonight.

New yorker as well here. I wonder is it harder in NYC or is it a myth? I just consciously started gaming after reading The Game and Venusian Arts Handbook. It's getting pretty fun to open up haha maybe we'll wing each other one day.

The answer is nothing - or more accurately, what you said at the end, just approach a new girl.

Your "neg" on the first girl would not have done anything other than annoy the girl even more. You are insulting someone who already has no interest in you. That does not create attraction. It creates further disdain. This is common sense. If an annoying guy comes up to you while you ride the subway, pushes his body into yours, says something and you ignore him, and then he says "What's your problem - where are your manners?" your response is not going to be "Oh yeah, where are my manners?" It is going to be "Holy shit this guy is strange!"

Hitting on a girl who is not interested in you in front of her boyfriend will only create an awkward if not potentially violent situation. Trust me, I've been there. Girls don't just magically lose attraction for their boyfriends because some guy was ballsy enough to engage them in conversation. Yes, you can pick a girl up when her boyfriend is present - I've been there too - but she has to be interested in you first and...she has to be a shitty person in a shitty relationship. Good, stable girls in good, stable relationships don't just up and leave their boyfriends for the nearest mPUA or alpha or whatever you've been told.

You know what I do when a guy comes up to me and my girlfriend - when its very clear that she's my girlfriend because I have my hands on her at all times and because she looks at me like I'm her savior...I sit back, smile, and enjoy the show because he stands no chance and he is showing us he stands no chance by simply approaching because he clearly lacks any sort of normal social skills. You don't hit on happy couples if you have normal social skills. And guess what, above many, many things, girls like guys with good social skills.

If a girl is not into you, she's not into you. Erase any PUA brainwashing you've heard that says otherwise. Game is not some magical drug that makes girls who don't like you all of a sudden like you. It doesn't turn happy, stable girls who love their boyfriends into mindless sex feigns who will cheat at the drop of a hat.

It makes girls that like you...like you even more.

And it can, at times, make girls who are neutral like you. If they don't like you from the start though, you should just go find a new girl and stop concerning yourself with what you could have done better because you will drive yourself crazy and start thinking you are "no good at this" when the reality is that most situations are completely out of your control and you will not, no matter what you say, get the girl.

Its a fact of life. No one bats 1.000. No one. Not even close.

That may sound harsh but it will save you a lot of headaches and negative thoughts. Find the girls that like you and pursue them. If no girls like you, pursue yourself first...if you know what I mean.
NYC is the easiest city in America to get laid. You are in a single man's paradise. Go forth and conquer.

NYC is the easiest city in America to get laid. You are in a single man's paradise. Go forth and conquer.[/quote]


Nice to know! Thanks!