So, I know what I did wrong.... I called this HB8 or 9 on monday and seemd tryhard after running tight game sat night. (got her to ask to kiss me and was buying me drinks) After calling her and leaving a simple callback message on Wed night, I am thinking she will not be calling me back. I do think it is savagable and worth it. My gameplan is to text her on Sat
I need a good text to re-establish myslef with her and let her know I am the prize. I really wantto fuck this girl, any help would be greatly appretiated. Thanks!

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Texting after a leaving a message is way to desperate dont do it.

But if you want to fuck her your best chance will be to text her when you think she might have a few drinks on her and shes a bit horny.So maybe late
Friday or Saturday night.

Like have you ever gotten a message at about 2 in the morning saying

" hey how are you ? havent talked to you in a while ? " this translates to " im horny wanna fuck?"

So either text late on the weekend and hope for the best or dont do it at all.

I think calling her twice in 3 days was too much. The text within the
same week may come off as even more try hard.

I would wait even longer before doing anything. Use this weekend to
get another girl's number instead of pining over this one. I mean, if
you did it with an HB9 once, you can do it again, right?

I would try something like texting her as if you meant to send it to
someone else... or even the blank txt as suggested above. If you
think you've blown it, then just have fun with it.

or what about this?:

"Hey, what's up?"

If she responds with "Who is this?", then she doesn't have your number
in her phone or memorized. Don't respond and NEXT her. Go meet
someone else.

That's brilliant.

You've made your move, leave it up to her now. If she doesn't respond she's obviously not interested. Her loss. If you keep on calling you will come off as desperate which is a very un-attractive quality.

I learned this when I had a girl do it to me. I was instantly put off of the girl. Remember, your the prize!

some of the ideas suggested above like the blank text or the text where u were meant to send it to someone else are very good id go with them if i were u.. but i definitely agree with Grouper here: dont bother making two moves no matter how good ur 2nd move is, if she ignores u the 1st time she'll more than likely ignore u the 2nd time aswell cuz shes simply not interested.

i dont really approve of texting her when u think she maybe drunk/horny cuz iv gotten a few of those msgs from HBs before and it looked something like:

"h3eyha hoowzzz ARE YAae bebiieZs!! im firckin awqssdome. w0tzss iszth yhuo donig tonieet??"

in other words: un-fucking-readable. dont bother cuz it also comes off like u have nothing better to do on a friday/satday nyt (ur supposed to be a busy guy remember?)

but if u really wanna text her u can either be playful as suggested before or play it off with a strong frame by sayin somethin like: "hey whos this? i found ur no. in my fone.." and if she replies say "ohhh yehh thats right yeh that was a fun night.. etc" and resume normal txt game from there.. (as you've already called her and awaiting her return call i would suggest u do this after like a week or so if she still hasnt returned ur call - or alternatively MOVE ON).

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LOL! I should get my friends an introduction to some of these ladies.

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just did this about an hour ago worked great! then i turned it into a phone convo. was a great conversation starter!

I cant take credit for either of these but they have both been recommended on here:-

Routine 1

PUA:- "STOP................."
HB:- "What do you mean stop? I'm confused!"
PUA:- "thinking about me and smiling. See i bet you are doing it right now"

Routine 2

PUA:- "Hey who sings the song that goes INSERT CHEESY SONG LINE HERE?"
HB:- "I don't know/it is blah blah blah etc"
PUA:- Neg or do whatever you want.

Not sure if these are suitable to use in your case but I have used them both to great effect before. They are a bit different to the average text message that an AFC would send.

I am not sure if you still need this....

I could be wrong but I feel this could be used in txt game or on the phone to a your target.

When you ask a person a question and they answer you with a no you have already lost. The reason for this is that once someone says "no" they are more inclined to say "no" again. They are less inclined to say "yes"

By her not taking your call she is kinda saying "no" and you have lost.

You can influence someones answer by asking them 3 questions which your target will definitley say "yes" to.

The forth question you ask them could be your actual question for e.g. You should come shopping with me on saturday?

Once someone has said "'yes" 3 times they usually will say yes to the fourth question.

I read about this in a book about influencing people and when I have used this influencing method it has worked.

I wonder how that would work with LMR...

Did you have fun today?
You know we have a date tomorrow right?
You know I want to see you again right?

then...........fuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuck her.

Also, by adding "right?" to the end of the question people are much more inclined to answer yes.

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Nice one stoccerstud - When I used it I did say "right" prompting the person to say yes.

Good thinking on the LMR bro.

haha i love this one. im going to give this one a try tomorrow during class to a girl that sits across from me.

you can try something like

pua: send her a blank text
Hb: "whats with the blank text?"
pua: "i didnt send you a blank text. your just saying that so you can talk to someone as hot as me."

I've been trying this out since last week.

First try, sent a blank text to 5 girls: no response from ANY

Second try, sent "Made you look! :-p" to 5 other girls: no response from ANY

Third try, sent "Made you look " to 3 other girls: 1 response of, "lol! Yer you did, rilly wabbit!"

Fourth try, sent a blank text to 2 girls: no response from ANY

I mean, the concept is quite brilliant, but now a days... I mean, honestly I have received accidental-txts, and unless it's just bizarre, I would dismiss it. I asked my friends and a couple of girls on their opinions about the whole idea, and they all agreed that they would probably just ignore or delete it.

But it's still a great idea... about to give it a fifth try

I don't actually think texting after a call is a bad idea depending how you go about it. Recently, I met an HB who tries to stick to texting. My second call to her, she sent me straight to the voicemail. I left my message sounding like an idiot b/c my mind was on "why did she send me straight to the voice mail?" We had already txt quite a bit. Anyway, I texted her within the next 30 minutes, "textin is too impersonal and you want to be a stranger. I don't trust you-you're hiding something." I really sent this text as more of a "fuck you I ain't callin' again" but she called back right away saying sorry she was busy with all kinds of excuses...BS! Whatever, she's hot and maybe I got a shot.

Another time a HB didn't pick up my first 3 calls so I texted her almost right away after the 3rd call. "I knew that beautiful smile was too good to be true".....yada yada don't remember what else I said... Same deal. Got a text right away saying sorry and saw her later that day.

In conclusion, texting after a call is not desperate if done the right way. I think having a GOOD "neg" is 100% necessary for this situation and you need to be more of a prick under these circumstances. This chick is lucky your showing interest and here she is thinking she doesn't need to answer the phone for you? WRONG bitch!

I am very new to this forum and the whole PUA thing in general. I just started getting into it and have been trying different material from this site. I am a pretty confident and i consider myself attractive, and never have problem approaching women for the most part. Anyways I was at the local college bar this weekend, saw an HB8 who i recognized from a sorority charity event, and so I figured I walked over and opened her set, telling her how much fun I had at the event, and how i was really all for the cause, and then negged her a little for not remembering my name. She started to apologize, and I turned my shoulder to her, and she touched my arm to turn me back towards her. Then another HB8 who i guess is in her sorority walked over and jumped on me, and started dancing with me for a minute, which probably gave her that idea that I am a fun guy and know some mutual people. So I get back to the regular HB8, and we just start dancing, the rest of her set walks away, and I am with her for the majority of the night. I was actually drunk when this was all happening, and she was too, but I just remember cracking a lot of jokes on my surroundings, and we even playe d the 5 question game, which she suprisingly beat me in (first girl who has beat me), but I bet starbucks with her, and figured this would land me a second date. Anyways at the end of the night, our faces get really close, and she planted on a kiss on my lips, no tongue or making out. We leave the bar , grab some food, tell me her friends are coming to pick her up, i tell her to let me see her phone, put my number in, and as the ride pulls up she plants a light kiss on my lips.

Now this is where I think i fucked up. Next day, i call her at 9:30 pm to try and set up that starbucks date. I call her say my name ,she remembered me and as soon as convo was about to start the phones got really staticky, and i couldnt hear her so I hung up. Tried callin back, went to vmial. She texted me 10 minutes later saying she gets no service in her room. I say call me when you get a minute I want to talk to you about something. She says waht do you want to talk about. I text back jokingly, you are in a lot of trouble from last night miss. She texts back saying what are you talking about, i tell her I am kidding, and that i just want to follow up with her, and tell her a story. She says alright Ill call you when i get a chance, i have a lot of hw to finish tonight. I say alright I am gonna call you at 11 45, so leave you rroom so there is service. She texts me back saying relax, you can always call me tomorrow. I respond: um okay? good night then. she then ends the convo saying youre really agressive. I think this means i fucked up. I guess I got too excited about this one. How do i recover? should i call her in like two days give her time to wait and wonder why I didnt call her the next morning. i just want to get her to go for coffee with me since i lost the 5 question game. how do I go about this.