I'm here to tell you guys from my short lives experience that texting is absolutely abysmal game. It can ruin everything you've built with a girl in an encounter.

The one time I decided to just not text at all it worked flawlessly. I told the girl. Don't text me when I get your number. I don't like it. I'll call you. This, alone, is a unique thing that will separate you but the special thing you get out of not texting is that you can converse without being misunderstood. When you text, there is far less intimacy. The girl can put misguided preconceptions to what she is reading. It gives her time to respond. You don't want this.

When you call you can convey your confidence and comfort so much more clearly than with txt. Lets make a movement. Lets stop texting forever. Call your N closes and see what happens. NEVER text them. Just call ad if she doesn't answer, leave a voicemail and wait. I bet she will get back to you. She hears a person behind those words. She isn't just reading literature.

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LOL dude... I've been telling you this for a while now. Good to see you found out for yourself

I'm really starting to agree with is.

However, I think you can use the text well but only for utilitarian purposes NOT for comfort or anything like that.

What do you think of this, as soon as you number close, text her saying "hey it's xyz, here is my number." If she responds, unless its inviting you somewhere on the night just say "cool, I'll call you [instert day here]." Then call her that day.

If she doesn't respond at all you can call, or decide not to. If she doesnt respond its kind of like an iodi but up to you I guess. Depends On the interaction.

What do you guys think?

That is too much texting. I've even tried that approach. The moment you text the girl, your dead on arrival. Forget that texting exists until you've already f closed her. Until then, not even ONE text. I have a girl I met and I called her first and then I sent a text the next day and I could never recover. Texting kills game like no other.

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I've heard some who are exclusively text and have success.

The idea behind text is that it is low effort, and therefore you don't seem too needy.

I think text is more solid, since she could always not be available to answer the call, and then be uncomfortable calling back.

The other thing about texting is that it should only be used to set up a date... it is definitely not a good way to build rapport with a girl. Any more than a 4-5 texts and you are running the risk of losing her... you don't want to end up being her texting buddy. You also need to build up a certain amount of comfort with the girl before you text asking for a date.

The problem isn't so much texting, it is how most guys use it.

Text messaging is a great tool, used in the proper context. It has gotten me laid, numerous x 10 times, caused orgasms without speaking a word, and a SHIT TON of naked pictures. Worked out last night as a point of fact.

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In my experience, text is nothing more than the fastest way to bore a girl.

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I hate texting! The only reason I ever text girls is because they love it! But I think I'm starting to realize that it's not the best way to get a girl. Texting too much gets you attached to that person, and can make you say the wrong things! Too bad you can't edit a text message!

You can't k-close girls in Peru because it's socially unacceptable. I'm trying just booking them for the date right after the n-close. That would eliminate texting entirely.

I fucking hate texting. Im going to try this one out, thanks alot man.

I had so many girls and i screwed everything up, just because i suck at texting if not that, some other factors plays in.

I think it depends on how you text. I imagine most guys over text, or dont maintain frame. This comes off as Low value and needy. For some guys text will work better than call or vise versa. Stick to what you are good at doing and have results with. For me its been texting.

Two consecutive nights ive got 2 hotties phone numbers..

My text game seems to be shocking. I really need to improve it, I have no problem getting numbers or pulling when im out. But when I get a number I seem to chat crap.

Whats a good solid method of starting a text conversation, leading to something more firm like a date or hookup whilst out?

As always, you can break the rules if you know what you're doing. Texting does work well for some people (albeit a small minority). However, for the most part, guys should avoid texting for anything other than answering direct questions or setting up logistics (where, when, etc). New guys routinely do more harm then good by via texting and it is best avoided when you're new to the community.

I actually kind of like the "no texting" stance that the OP puts forth. I may try that out. =)

-Wolf

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I agree with your post but I also wanted to say that texting is not a definite no no,with texting as long as its not to escalate or game her more you keep it neutral its not a bad thing,you can think of what you want to say more because its not spur of the moment like phone call and if you take your time texting can be beneficial,
having said that I do try to keep texting to a minimum or not at all if I can but everybodys game is diferent I think you should go with what works for you,theres more than 1 way to get a girl just experiment.
good post though : )

This is a really fun topic. I'll bite.


Texting in itself can be a lifesaver or the anchor to your game. Some guys I know can actually text better than they can flirt in person. Myself included.


I actually get more women into me by just writing to them instead of speaking to them, because with texts, you can take your time. Make every response perfect. Respond hours or days later to show you aren't needy. Like someone above me said, the problem most guys have is keeping their frame. It's really not that hard.