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I join the pua forum about 5 months ago. Using pua i was able to pick up a girl in about a month. The girl is a virgin and for the past four months it has not really bothered me that we were not having sex as we have been doing everything but intercourse. Recently though it has been bothering me and i am getting frustrated. The more i like the girl the more i want to have sex with her, and as more time passes the closer we are getting. I want to start taking action soon, for past few months i have been quiet on issue but i do not plan on keeping like that for much longer. I do not plan ditching the girl afterwards so no worries there.
I am a virgin myself i have no idea how initiate to sex with another virgin. Do i ask to penetrate or do i just go for it? As you can see im clueless. The girl has verbally expressed that she does not want to have sex before marriage. When i asked her why her response was mixed varying from religion to standards to fear of pregnancy. But she has also stated before that she wants sex (contradicting pieces of information i know). What worries me though is the fact that she was engaged to another for 1.5 years and she has kept her virginity. Given this information and what i know i expect taking her virginity is going to be very difficult. I really like this girl and do not want to give her up because of her stubborn views on sex. I know that some of you have been in this position before so is there any advice you can give me? Is it a good idea to give ultimatums?
Hey man, I've been in a similar situation, and have gotten the lay.
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But she has also stated before that she wants sex (contradicting pieces of information i know).
This is your playing field here. Contradicting pieces of information because girls have both logical and emotional sides, which are almost always in conflict with each other. Her logic is telling her not to have sex because of her beliefs and her upbringing, however her emotional biological side wants to have sex because it is natural and healthy.
The trick here is to play her emotional side to the point where she just cannot resist anymore. Do not be needy for sex, but rather be out to be a very sexual person. Talk about relationships and say what you think constitutes a real relationship. Hint hint, a real relationship has sex involved.
Since she is sexually repressed tell her to tell you about her deepest sexual fantasies, lead into it slowly, getting onto the topic bit by bit and hopefully soon she'll be telling you what her sexual fantasies are. If she isn't you can start by telling your own, and see if she reciprocates.
You said you are doing everything apart from intercourse, which is also good. You can tease her here, she's probably used to you pleasuring her, next time, however, stop before the big O or just start and stop and get her extremely horny.
Another good thing to play is discretion. It is possible she doesn't want OTHER people finding she had sex, so play that angle as well, telling her YOU don't like telling people about your relationships and your sexual adventures. You don't like to spill the beans, and this will get her more comfortable with you.
Again, the big thing here is what YOU accept. She has the power right now since she isn't giving you the opportunity to penetrate her, and if this is what you want and she's not giving it, make sure you have other options to walk away to, since this cannot go on forever. You are a sexual person who is comfortable with sex, and if she can't handle that then it's her loss.
Get both of you completely naked in bed and as you do your thing lie on top of her, do not penetrate her, but if she is horny she will feel an incredible urge to just stick it in since it's so close yet so far away. You want to build up her desire to the point where she just can't handle it anymore.
Remember, se has suppressed fantasies, work on that angle. Work on discretion, work on making her horny by teasing her, not giving her everything, and work on what YOU will accept and what you think a relationship constitutes of. She must have respect for your beliefs and opinions as well, not just the other way around. How long are you willing to put up with this man?
In the end a freezeout may do the trick, AFTER you have done all of this. A freezeout basically means going no contact for a little while like a week and letting her feel the loss, and then the next time you see her, you can get to the point where you're naked again and just say "Do you want me inside you?" or "Let me get something just in case" and get out the condom.
A GREAT move I have yet to try is from a guy called Roosh V who had a girl in bed saying they will not have sex and he used the line "Let me get something just in case" and he put on the condom. The girl said "We're not having sex" and he said "No we're not, but I like to be really safe just for rubbing you know" and she said "OK." And what do you know, he rubbed his dick against the outside of her pussy and soon she couldn't resist and he was inside of her. This may do the trick for you as well.
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