Iv'e gone on like a dozen first dates over the past months - I was a gentleman, didn't talk or push sex, kept them laughing, etc. (all thing BS things girls say they want) - I kissed almost all of them and almost all texted me back, but then things just faded out after... I know now I come across too nice/boring and not edgy/sexual/mysterious enough

To change up my game completely I started emailing women on match .com ambiguous sexual messages, like hinting at eating them out, threesomes and stuff like that. The crazy part is they are F'ing emailing me back and Ive got digits already... most sort of play along ambiguously - nothing like an overt lets have sex or anything - this is match .com...

Based on these emails, how sexual should I be on the first date? Any quick strategies I could learn before this first one to inject edginess/sexuality into my game?

Depends on your personality mostly. I can tell you what works for me

The first date is strategic
Go to a few locations(Create a warp in time, feels like you've known each other longer)
Figure logistics (Do you live close, make an excuse up to go there or even have the date there. There more innocent the reason the better)

On to the sexual side
This really depends on the girl, if she was texting you before the date saying how much shes going to rip your dick off...I mean get her back to your place asap no need for the date.
If not you have a bit of work to do
Your sexuality (If she doesn't really express too much interest in sex during the texts before the date) should be an undertone, this comes more with experience.

The main thing is touch and strategy(You don't have to be sexual, it is a plus if you can do it well though)
Touch her, very important. You don't have to touch anywhere hardcore(Breasts etc) But the small touches usually are very potent (Like hand holding, hug, put your hand on her back while shes going through doors etc) Try to get a kiss on the cheek, then the other and a kiss on the lips.

Also other notes: Have fun and push and pull
Having fun is important, the positive energy really helps the mood and progression of touch and a positive place of mind with her is always better than a negative in the end.

Push and pull very simple! Its like a balancing act: If she says something you like ie. I love Tables! You can be like Oh thats awesome you get a high five for that! Or hug whichever
If she says something you don't like tell her! I like chairs! Then you can say what I don't know you were like that, etc Careful this is a balancing act, but I would honestly just say be honest, if you like what they say let them know if not vice versa

Complimenting, I would say look at the parts of her that took effort. If it looks like she spent hours on something getting ready, compliment it. Otherwise even if she looks drop dead gorgeous but thats just her face normally don't. She won't really enjoy it too much

Hope that helps man! Goodluck

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Thanks for this man, just what I needed, sort of a cliff notes until I have a chance to study pua techniques more.

I read The Game before and I think thats where I heard about time warps so Ive been messing with that for years - it works amazingly well; although, Iv'e been really lazy about doing it - usually just easier to sit at one bar... I need to do that though cause it does make even ME feel really connected to them after so many venues in a night

The compliments are a hard one, I have always known that too don't compliment their looks - just accomplishments or good meal they cook etc.; but in order to appear more edgy/sexual I need to say something - maybe if I just compliment their outfit and call it sexy or whatever, say how the outfit makes their tits look bigger, stuff like that - then Im really complimenting the outfit - a choice she made - not looks per say - but I can also come across more sexual

Feel like I have the date game down okay as far as keeping them laughing, questions, connection, I almost always kiss them on first dates - where Im failing is I need to inject more edginess/sexuality

You need to get good at calibrating, but I always go into a date trying to f-close. Even if it's a first date, even if it's a blind date. ALWAYS. Sometimes, it's obvious that the chemistry isn't there or comfort isn't there and I won't just go in a direction that the target clearly isn't ready for, but the goal is always f-close, day 1. What this means is, you should not set any boundaries or rules, but rather calibrate to the level of chemistry, attraction, and comfort throughout the date. Why would you stop at a k-close if the girl is comfortable enough to go back to your place and fuck?

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I always aim for f-close and some venues as close as possible to my fuck location. However, there is a huge different between being fun and sexually comfortable with who you are and being a horndog. The latter reeks desperation and needs to be avoid at all cost. You can use sexual innuendos, roleplays, future projections, kino, etc.. to warm her up than push for sex. You will encounter some resistance, unless she flat out says NO with a mean face, try at least 3 times before you give up.

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Thanks man, yeah F-close was never my goal before - I think that as a goal would totally change my mindset, Iv'e always just had like a goal to be a gentleman and K-close... mostly cause I was looking for a GF so thought that would be better, but after all my experiences over the last months - I am sort of over the GF thing right now - and I feel like I would even have a better shot getting a GF if my goal was to F-close! These women don't seem to respect the nice gentleman

So on the first date itself do you use any method or checklist per say? Or just naturally try to incorporate innuendos, etc

Yeah, I need to go for the F-close your right; I'm making them feel comfortable and trust me; I'm just not saying anything sexual, not coming across edgy during the date

My latest theory is that women online - at least on paid sites like match; these women have men in their life coworkers friends etc - so when they go online they want the PERFECT guy; so on the date if they don't see me as perfect - I'm done. BUT, if I pushed sex more they might see me as good enough for a one night stand while they find their perfect guy... just my thought

From my experiences, going through checklist ruins the fun. You have to constantly aware of what you're doing. It makes you being too technical and somewhat not genuine, and in result, you focus on yourself too much rather than the girl and the interaction. Try to enjoy the moments and actually get to know the woman, it will create comfort and emotional connection with her which makes it easier to sexual escalate.

I'm usually just be aloof and fun. I also make a lot of sexual comment and push and pull. I touch them as soon as I could, I'd never go for a handshake. I always go for hugs and kisses on the cheeks. If you set that frame from the very start, it's much easier to f-close. I went for kiss-close really random, like I interrupted them from the conversation and told them I like their eyes or I want to kiss them and just went for it. Same goes for the f-close, I just randomly grabbed their hands and led them to a corner or my fuck location close by.

Fury mentioned about calibrating, that is also important. Gauge the girl's interest and compliance level, then adjust your level of sexual escalate accordingly. Some girl will take a bit more work than others. The only checklist I would recommend is kino checklist. If she doesn't flinch or upset where you touch, move on to the next level. For example:

Touch her shoulder -> touch her elbow -> touch her face -> lower back -> ass -> inner thighs -> etc...

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