I am reading David D's E-book and it says don't smile too much. In The Game it says smile becasue it show you like to have fun. How much do you smile? When I make a joke I smile. I have done it without a smile and they thought I was being a dick. As for keno; How often do you do it? When you first meet? Before you leave? A lot or a little?

Well i'll give it to you from personal experience, Kino [cant remember where i've seen this] your suppose to touch them one way or another in the first two mins of meeting them and from there it became really easy for me to work. I usually hold the hand of a chick up n look at her rings n sometimes i neg her with "dollar store" material. As for the smiles, if you give out that look in your face as if your havin fun, women shout out IOI's. Here's a corny joke but for some reason has worked:

Slickz: wanna hear a knock knock joke?
Her: Not really
Slickz: ight i'll tell u it anyways
Her: [usually laughs n says ok]
Slickz: Hey u better laugh eh...took me a real long time to think of this

Slickz: Knock Knock
Her:..who's there
Slickz: The interupting Cow
Her: The interupting Cow who?
Slickz: Moooo [and u jus stare at her with a light face]
She usually laughs...for the 5 times i've used that its been working...

Think women go for a fun kinda guy, n a big ass smile really goes well
think it would work as a opener? need suggestions.

don't know why but i'm smiling... everytime, if i'm near the girls i'm smiling non-stop, just being with a smile, i just can't take it away even if i want

I think what David D was saying don't grin like an idiot. I always notice guys smiling at everything a hb says whether it warrants a smile or not. They grin like monkeys.

Notice how much you smile when you're talking to a regular looking girl and treat a HB the same. I think it's good to smile after you've made a joke, or after you've negged so that everyone else knows you're joking.

I don't smile tons, but I have a kinda smirk on my face, like I'm having a good time. Seems to work.

yo. some girls told me that they've never seen me without a smile

Sup Prize fer smiling i smile all teh time
it shows your not a depressing guy
and fer kino im doin it all teh time if ive got

the chance like even in the opener but
but how i kino and im always smiling is
just congruent wit who i am

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Demetri Martin the comedian is great at Jokes that he delivers with ABSOLUTELY NO SMILING. You can smile there is no problem, just when you are in a conversation its not natural to keep your smile hanging so long it makes you seem fake. Smile on and off in a conversation, its your facial expressions that can work with your smile.

Just try to smile as natural as possible...

I mean I dunno... When I'm neggin a bird...

I kinda give her a smirk wit a wink, but I do it really quick...

I try to focus to much on her, I want her to focus on me...

How you carry conversation, yer posture, yer hand gestures, the animation of yer facial expressions, all work with you or against you...

But the main thing is communication... YOu gotta know how to flow...

Simple as that...

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Smiling works like a charm - but, like a charm, it can be taken for granted if it's in too much abundance. I was say: smile as an opener, greet with a smile. And after that, smile when appropriate (eg she is smiling at you). But then - change things up. Smiles attract like nothing else. But once you have attracted her, bring out the smiles less often. One genuine smile while making eye contact is better than 100 goofy smiles anyday.

What David D should explain is that smiling is fine. As long as you are very confident and sure of yourself. It's the guys that are not confident that turn women off with their smiles. Why you ask? Because their smile is a response to there insecurity and women smell it all over the guy. When you smile she will instantly read your body language and know just what type of smile it is. Get it? Remember women are masters of the body language. I am sure they comprehend it in a way guys only dream about.

As for Kino. Yes do it a lot but make sure you are being warm, friendly, confident. It has to come across as a natural part of who you are. I can't stress the kino thing enough. It is truly the most important part of picking up a woman. If you really want success make it memorable. Lightly rub her arm or back for a few seconds.

[quote="jacked"]Demetri Martin the comedian is great at Jokes that he delivers with ABSOLUTELY NO SMILING...[/quote]

That's what people say makes me funny. I rarely smile after joking around, even if they smile. I only smile or laugh at other people's jokes. Just do what's natural. You can't walk around looking like a smiling idiot or be too serious, looking like some psycho.

I say - smile. Normally. Smile when she earned it. Smile when approaching, it all depends on style of your opener. Have this permanent calm look with a little bit of smile on your face permanently. YOU WILL FEEL BETTER. Confident guys aren't afraid of smiling. But we don't smile a way into woman's pants. Smile when you are supposed to.

KINO - the more the merrier, but not aggressive.

Carpe Diem!

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You don't know the future, you can't change the past. The only thing that matters is THE CURRENT MOMENT.

Learn the art of the half-assed smile in public especially..

Big grins are too much at first with alot of girls, especially those you don't know well.

Use brief eye contact, and the half assed smile after you say something. You can practice this in the mirror.

Once she allows you to be alone with her you can really turn on the charm.

Remember be indirect when talking or cutting up. Especially when it comes to sex, etc.. Open body posture and look into her eyes. She'll get the message or you move on.