I'm talking about the 10 out of 10's

A couple of months ago I was down in Plymouth visiting some friends. We are out one night and everyone left early to rest up for the big night the next day, leaving me and my mate, the most pea-cocked mofo out there. That's just his style, he pulls it off and has the most natural game out of anyone I know.

I saw these two smoking hot girls, leather leggings and ass's to die for. My friend and I were about to leave but I thought I would kick myself if i didn't approach. My friend said to leave it as they looked like posh stuck up bitches. But I summed up the courage and thought fuck it. I just went for it.

I did the walk past and pretend to just notice them routine. I went up to the hottest of the two, (mila kunis meets J-Lo) and come up with the line "where did you get those leather leggings?" she had a massive grin on her face and began to tell me. I followed up with "I only ask because my friend would like a pair. Do you think he can pull them off" I point to my friend, introduce him and Bam we are chatting to the fittest girls in the club.

Here comes the lesson. The mila kunis lookalike states at the end the conversation right before i get her digits, "It's nice that you guys came and talked to us because whenever we go out guys just stare and leave us alone." Now i proceeded to say that's because of your two heads but the real reason there is guy's are obviously just being intimidated by how hot they are.

Chat to the hot stuck up looking bitchy girls, chances are they actually really nice and you look like the Man doing it. When we walked away from them I noticed three groups of guys all hovering around them just staring at us.

Most guys are wallflowers, standing there starring, wishing on only what could have be but never will. This guy is only willing to make a move when all the planets are in alignment - or at least until he sees the green light that she's definitely interested (most of the time he'll not see the signs anyway). These guys typically end up living in their minds.

Then there are the douches who will aggressively approach anything with a pulse. Yea, these guys get blown out A LOT, but of say out of the 10 girls they approach only 1 or 2 bite - the 9 who didn't no longer matter...they weren't failures because he succeeded in gaming 1, which was 1 more than he previously had.

So, where shoud you lie? Somewhere in between. Don't be an overly aggressive douche (like 60 years of mentally challenged would have you belief), and certainly don't be the wallflower who goes home at the end of the night to only to blow his wad into the toilet bowl.

Ya there are some pretty girls who dont get approach, and there are others who get approached A LOT. Don't concern yourself with what other guys are not doing, focus on you.

Whenever i see topics like this i have to scratch my head a few times.

Firstly about the HB10.

I Always heard two sides of this story. The HB10s that everybody approaches and get hit on all night. And the HB10s that get ignored all night because every guy is too afraid to open.

I must admit i have seen the first ones the most actually. The second ones are more hot girls that are on a night out in a city that nobody knows them.

Second point is about guy behaviour in clubs

I have no idea where you guys are from but in the clubs where i go all the guys are socializing and dancing and having fun. Yes we got a certain type of guy that goes behind the girl and grinds, mostly without it working. But wallflowers make up for like 5% of all the males.

It's an interesting point. They're lonely because every AFC is either to intimidated to approach, or approaches with the same lame opener that they hear 10 times a night, every night, which obviously doesn't hook them. However, a lot of these HB10's have deep down insecurity issues, which can make them good targets for push-pull. I'd start out with a light neg, for instance, their leather pants. I'd use the line about how i "like" the pants and have seen a few other girls wearing them tonight. Follow this with a light pull, gauge their reaction, and move from there.

Good post.

This is why I always approach the most gorgeous, high quality women I see around, no matter what. You're always, always better off approaching, rather than standing around waiting for IOIs and permission slips.

70% of guys stand around staring at the girls, until the girls catch them, after which the guys look away in fear

29% of guys make strong eye contact with the girls and/or act like they're too great to approach the girls, yet never actually approach.

You should always be part of the 1% that actually goes and talks to the girls. Even if you don't get any go aheads from the girl to approach, or any prior attraction from her. You can always gain the attraction after starting the conversation.

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What has happened to me in most cases when I approached the 10s...

is that they act really friendly because nobody has talked to them that night, but I'm a short foreigner guy living in a land of giants, so 2 minutes after my approach, all these drunk gorillas get literary in my way and start trying in a very aggressive way, to take this girls home...

And I really do not want to enter into a fight alone, against guys who double me on weight and are probably on cocaine for a hb that I've known for less than 2 minutes.

So next time they see me they do not even say hi, because before I came to talk to them, they were lonely but still having a relaxed time, but after that they had a really difficult time dealing with all these douches...