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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 6:14 am 
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That's not a shit test. Everyone loves those two words: shit test. Guys love to throw those words around for any obstacle they encounter. In fact, shit tests are administered at the very early stage to test your frame.

Your girlfriend is not testing your frame. She is simply being an immature little cunt.
You can counter by either a) ignoring what she says, b) retorting sarcastically as breezy86 suggested, or c) bragging about girls hitting on you (but only if it's believable).

And no, b) would not make things worse. How? You are demonstrating that you won't accept her immaturity.
This is 100% Right. Sick of seeing "shit test" thrown around anytime a girl does something fucked up. Calling it a shit test just excuses her behavior as not being as serious as it is and justifies that she's just testing your frame. No, she's a bitch and immature and not gf material. A shit test is a girl asking you if you're a player at the bar while flirting with you.
If you ignore it as you would for a shit test, or try to DHV to get her jealous, all it will do is make her one up you. She is throwing guys in your face. Make her insecure and she will just get the validation from a guys dick. If it were me, I'd break up as she's shown the type of person she is.

Please guys, stop using shit test to explain away red flags. The more time you waste on these girls who play games and don't care about you, the less time you have to meet someone who knows how to behave and is gf material.


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That's not a shit test. Everyone loves those two words: shit test. Guys love to throw those words around for any obstacle they encounter. In fact, shit tests are administered at the very early stage to test your frame.

Your girlfriend is not testing your frame. She is simply being an immature little cunt.
You can counter by either a) ignoring what she says, b) retorting sarcastically as breezy86 suggested, or c) bragging about girls hitting on you (but only if it's believable).

And no, b) would not make things worse. How? You are demonstrating that you won't accept her immaturity.
This is 100% Right. Sick of seeing "shit test" thrown around anytime a girl does something fucked up. Calling it a shit test just excuses her behavior as not being as serious as it is and justifies that she's just testing your frame. No, she's a bitch and immature and not gf material. A shit test is a girl asking you if you're a player at the bar while flirting with you.
If you ignore it as you would for a shit test, or try to DHV to get her jealous, all it will do is make her one up you. She is throwing guys in your face. Make her insecure and she will just get the validation from a guys dick. If it were me, I'd break up as she's shown the type of person she is.

Please guys, stop using shit test to explain away red flags. The more time you waste on these girls who play games and don't care about you, the less time you have to meet someone who knows how to behave and is gf material.
I agree. The usage of "shit test" has turned in to a way of excusing cunt-like behavior and making it seem ok.
Also, there is way too much obsession on here with being "non-reactive".
Ok. So next time your (not you, neo) gf sucks a dude's dick, you can be non-reactive, and "not care", while you suffer inside and stay devoted. You'll look real alpha.
A real man should know which battles to fight, and when a girl acts like a grade A cunt, he needs to be able to set his foot down and call her out and draw lines. Stop justifying being a beta pussy with this "don't react" bullshit. If a girl throws a fit over undone dishes, sure, don't react. If a girl is acting like a whore and going clubbing with random guys, and you don't react, well, then it probably means you have no balls, and when she realizes you won't set your foot down, she'll start blowing them too. Now I'm not saying this should be an issue necessarily. Just stop any and all commitment to this relationship, and make sure you have a hotter girl blowing YOU so you won't give a fuck. Unless you're being "non reactive" because you're fucking 3 other girls on the side and you really don't give a fuck about this one, then you're just being a pussy. Oh, and just because she'll come back eventually, doesn't mean she won't be fucking every guy in ibiza while you stay non-reactive.
My advice to OP is to joke back to this bitch, and find other girls on the side. You absolutely have to downgrade her to "fuck buddy" in your mind, even while officially being "together". However, if he wanted a serious relationship with this one (which I advise against), he would absolutely need to set his foot down and call her out on the bullshit behavior. More likely than not, it would lead to a breakup, but that's the price you pay for being a man and not a mangina. If she went back in line, she'd be worth staying with. If not, then wanting a relationship with her should be out of the question. I swear guys these days are so fucking naive and trusting.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:10 pm 
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Man the fuck up already...

"Babe, you're sending me pictures of guys all day and I could give a damn, but when I'm out for a little fun you start drama. If this is how you really are, I don't think I need you anymore. Think about this, and call me when you're done."

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Today she texted me if I had plans for tonight. I said i was going to a birthday party and after that we would go out. I asked her what her plans were and she said she was also going out. I told her "have fun! i'll text you tomorrow xx". She replied with "okay baby you have fun too, love you xxxxxxx". So in the evening I went out and while i was in the club she texted me "I got home soon. How is your party?" I replied with "the party is great!!". She got mad and texted me stuff like "what are you up to?" "Why don't you ask me how my evening was" "why won't you answer me". i read the messages later because my Phone was rebooting by itself ( HTC ONE X stupid custom roms) so i couldn't answer her. I told her that I was just partying and my Phone was acting weird. She did not believe me...

I'm just wondering why she's acting like that. when she's home she never acts like this.

This relationship is driving me crazy..
Honestly, the advice on here is a little extreme. At least 2 guys suggested you dump her. Wtf? You don't need to go to that extent. All she did was say a few immature things. It's not like she blew a guy. And if she's 18-22, it's understandable for her to be immature.

Your goal was to either put your foot down and show her you won't stand up for that shit, and/or return the favour by making HER insecure. Well, looks like your second objective was accomplished... And you hardly did anything rofl. I also wouldn't spend too much time trying to convince her if she doesn't believe you.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 3:18 pm 
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I'm not sure whether I should take your reply up or not, but anyway I just want to be clear with some things.

I don't know about you guys, but I don't need immature girls for relationship material. They either try growing up or they better fuck around with someone else.

I also didn't mean to directly suggest him to dump her, just to set clear boundaries... The girl needs to know that her behaviour is not acceptable for him. If she doesn't she will continue.

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Today she texted me if I had plans for tonight. I said i was going to a birthday party and after that we would go out. I asked her what her plans were and she said she was also going out. I told her "have fun! i'll text you tomorrow xx". She replied with "okay baby you have fun too, love you xxxxxxx". So in the evening I went out and while i was in the club she texted me "I got home soon. How is your party?" I replied with "the party is great!!". She got mad and texted me stuff like "what are you up to?" "Why don't you ask me how my evening was" "why won't you answer me". i read the messages later because my Phone was rebooting by itself ( HTC ONE X stupid custom roms) so i couldn't answer her. I told her that I was just partying and my Phone was acting weird. She did not believe me...

I'm just wondering why she's acting like that. when she's home she never acts like this.

This relationship is driving me crazy..
Honestly, the advice on here is a little extreme. At least 2 guys suggested you dump her. Wtf? You don't need to go to that extent. All she did was say a few immature things. It's not like she blew a guy. And if she's 18-22, it's understandable for her to be immature.

Your goal was to either put your foot down and show her you won't stand up for that shit, and/or return the favour by making HER insecure. Well, looks like your second objective was accomplished... And you hardly did anything rofl. I also wouldn't spend too much time trying to convince her if she doesn't believe you.

This girl gets validation from being chased after by guys. And she isn't loyal enough to tell someone "I have a bf...back off." The problem with making a girl like this insecure is that she will just fuck someone else to regain power if you brush her aside. Saying this from the other side, I have fucked tons of girls who wanted to hook up just because their bf's ignored them that night. This is not like in a seduction book where you make her insecure, and she chases you and stops hanging with the guys because she's so preoccupied with thinking about you. She will chase you, but I guarantee she will find a way to even the playing field.

Cheating has nothing to do with how "high value" the person you're cheating on is. It's ALL to do with the girls moral code and character. Some girls will cheat on you even if youre the most alpha guy ever, because that's their character. Other girls will break up with you before cheating with you if you're the biggest loser ever. What seperates them? Their morals.

Setting boundaries is another thing. You shouldnt have to tell someone simple relationship stuff. You shouldnt have to set a boundary for her not to kiss other guys or to give guys her number out. When you "set a boundary" that's against someone's character, all you get is someone who will do it behind your back. YOU CAN'T CHANGE SOMEONE. ALL YOU CAN DO IS PICK SOMEONE WHO IS COMPATIBLE.
If you have a new friend, and one day he steals money from your apartment, do you "set a boundary" and tell him you don't allow stealing? No, he is a THIEF, and sooner or later he will steal something again. You should just tell the friend, f off and find another friend.
A boundary is only for things that aren't common sense. If someone is crossing a simple relationship boundary, they are showing you there character and you should run.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:00 pm 
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Me again. Thanks for the advice guys

So you could say that my relationship is coming to an end. Yesterday I told her how i felt about the whole situation. That i find her behavior unattractive and that it seems likes she is pushing my bottons only to see how i would react. after i told her how i felt she got mad ( like Always) and said: how you feel doesn't matter. I replied with: this is just how i feel about this. She got even madder and said many bitter things like: "i have no respect for you anymore" "i hope you die". I said: When you are in relationship you should listen to eachother and work on the problems you have. She said the following: "no Rafik(my name). you are low, very low. and very selfish". I told her I wanted to talk to her when she gets back from Ibiza and she replied: "we'll see if we are going to talk when i'm back"

What should you guys do? I know in the end it's my decision to make, but i'm just curious what you guys would do when you were in my shoes..


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Assume your relationship is over and don't contact her anymore. That shit is inexcusable.


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I can't imagine you still want to be with a woman like that... Just dump her already.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:47 pm 
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Me again. Thanks for the advice guys

So you could say that my relationship is coming to an end. Yesterday I told her how i felt about the whole situation. That i find her behavior unattractive and that it seems likes she is pushing my bottons only to see how i would react. after i told her how i felt she got mad ( like Always) and said: how you feel doesn't matter. I replied with: this is just how i feel about this. She got even madder and said many bitter things like: "i have no respect for you anymore" "i hope you die". I said: When you are in relationship you should listen to eachother and work on the problems you have. She said the following: "no Rafik(my name). you are low, very low. and very selfish". I told her I wanted to talk to her when she gets back from Ibiza and she replied: "we'll see if we are going to talk when i'm back"

What should you guys do? I know in the end it's my decision to make, but i'm just curious what you guys would do when you were in my shoes..
I would delete her number and call the next girl. Shes a cunt, just like we suspected. She obviously doesn't respect or care for you. Though next time I recommend being less touchy feely when addressing issues. You went in to this conversation from a position of weakness.


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Today she texted me if I had plans for tonight. I said i was going to a birthday party and after that we would go out. I asked her what her plans were and she said she was also going out. I told her "have fun! i'll text you tomorrow xx". She replied with "okay baby you have fun too, love you xxxxxxx". So in the evening I went out and while i was in the club she texted me "I got home soon. How is your party?" I replied with "the party is great!!". She got mad and texted me stuff like "what are you up to?" "Why don't you ask me how my evening was" "why won't you answer me". i read the messages later because my Phone was rebooting by itself ( HTC ONE X stupid custom roms) so i couldn't answer her. I told her that I was just partying and my Phone was acting weird. She did not believe me...

I'm just wondering why she's acting like that. when she's home she never acts like this.

This relationship is driving me crazy..
That's boss.
You've just made her insecure. Good job.
In this case where she is getting aggrevated, wouldn't she just break from it and cheat to get her mind off it ?

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Today she texted me if I had plans for tonight. I said i was going to a birthday party and after that we would go out. I asked her what her plans were and she said she was also going out. I told her "have fun! i'll text you tomorrow xx". She replied with "okay baby you have fun too, love you xxxxxxx". So in the evening I went out and while i was in the club she texted me "I got home soon. How is your party?" I replied with "the party is great!!". She got mad and texted me stuff like "what are you up to?" "Why don't you ask me how my evening was" "why won't you answer me". i read the messages later because my Phone was rebooting by itself ( HTC ONE X stupid custom roms) so i couldn't answer her. I told her that I was just partying and my Phone was acting weird. She did not believe me...

I'm just wondering why she's acting like that. when she's home she never acts like this.

This relationship is driving me crazy..
That's boss.
You've just made her insecure. Good job.
In this case where she is getting aggrevated, wouldn't she just break from it and cheat to get her mind off it ?
She could, but whats the alternative? supplicate and have her leave you anyways in a week? With girls like that you have to take the gamble and be ready to lose. As I said before, shes not gf material. He's best served just going out and seeing someone else while keeping this one for sex only, though at this point its too late.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 9:15 am 
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I'm still in the phase where I don't want to lose her. I know what she said is inexcusable, but somewhere I hope it all gets better..


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I'm still in the phase where I don't want to lose her. I know what she said is inexcusable, but somewhere I hope it all gets better..
It's been said before, that you won't be able to regain any control of the situation until you are fully ready to lose her. It's a shitty deal, yes, but unfortunately that's how it works.


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I'm still in the phase where I don't want to lose her. I know what she said is inexcusable, but somewhere I hope it all gets better..
It's been said before, that you won't be able to regain any control of the situation until you are fully ready to lose her. It's a shitty deal, yes, but unfortunately that's how it works.
Any Tips how to bring it to her?


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