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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 8:11 am 
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Ever since I first came across you guys ages ago, you've always been vouching that a girl has to be banged within a certain time frame from meeting her in order to avoid the dreaded "friendzone," and that friendship is a no-man's land.

However, I have mixed feelings about this mentality.

For one, I've dated some of my chick friends, and I've heard of many cases where long-time friends, or childhood friends, end up dating. In fact, one could argue that it's a good way to build a strong bond if you know what you're doing (in other words, not being a needy, sappy loser). Also, it could be a decent way to keep some girls on hold who might not be available to you for one reason or another.

Also, I think it's important to note that "The Friendzone" isn't a real friendship in the least, a girl who's friendzoned a guy (or vise versa), isn't in the least bit interested in really spending time with that person, or getting to know them, let alone being friends. It's really more of an excuse to keep the guy tame, once she's become aware of that person's feelings. In fact, the friend zone doesn't really happen when she utters those words, it happens way eariler when the guy is being overly attached and she's not interested, it really has nothing to do with friendship.

So then, how do the success stories work? Well, in my case it's been the following. I was never overly flirty or sexual with the girls who were my friends, nor did I ever openly show any affection, and I was totally (purposefully) oblivious to any of their signals. Even though I might have sent mixed signals from time to time, it was never really on purpose. I think the key is really being mysterious, but also being honest, and truthfully seeking JUST a friendship.

I think that really, you must move quickly once you've established a romantic interest, but prior to, you can extend things for as long as you want. But once you start being more intimate, and more sexual, that's when you gotta start taking steps, because a girl's patience will not last forever.

Just a thought, I think this might open some doors for some of you who have been pushing through easy sluts day in and day out and want a slight change in their selection.

Of course, this is open to debate and discussion, I actually would like to hear (rational) counter-arguments as "friendship is bad" is an idea that has been well cemented in this community.

I repeat, I don't think friendship is a bad approach to things, not if you know what you are doing and keep manage to keep desire out of everything.

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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 11:56 am 
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When I started gaming I became so afraid of the Friendzone and that is just a myth to my opinion.

If you are really friends and the girl is single, you can break out of it just by being 100% honest about your feelings and desires. You are not going to make them your girlfriends in just a day all the times, sometimes it will take a little bit more time, but you get there just by being honest.
In my experience guys stay in the Friendzone most of the times are because they are afraid that their feelings and sexual desires will offend the girl and instead of communicating them, they just start to kiss the girls ass in hopes for her to express her sexual interest to them.

True friends if you ask them to go out with you to do any activity, might agree or not to go out with you at that time, but will never say:"no lets just be friends" If they say that, then they are no friends...


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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 2:15 pm 
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I was never overly flirty or sexual with the girls who were my friends, nor did I ever openly show any affection, and I was totally (purposefully) oblivious to any of their signals. Even though I might have sent mixed signals from time to time, it was never really on purpose.
That's why you were never in the friend zone to begin with. Showing disinterest or indifference towards a girl who is used to being swarmed over by guys like flies swarm of a hot pile of shit is a different beast altogether. In a sense, you become a girl's pet project. She asks herself, "why is it that this guy isn't interested in me?" and "how can I get him to fall for me?" subconsciously.

The friend zone is 100% real. It just doesn't apply to every situation or friendship.


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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 8:13 pm 
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I was never overly flirty or sexual with the girls who were my friends, nor did I ever openly show any affection, and I was totally (purposefully) oblivious to any of their signals. Even though I might have sent mixed signals from time to time, it was never really on purpose.
That's why you were never in the friend zone to begin with. Showing disinterest or indifference towards a girl who is used to being swarmed over by guys like flies swarm of a hot pile of shit is a different beast altogether. In a sense, you become a girl's pet project. She asks herself, "why is it that this guy isn't interested in me?" and "how can I get him to fall for me?" subconsciously.

The friend zone is 100% real. It just doesn't apply to every situation or friendship.
Well, lets backtrack a bit I have been in the Zone of Friends before. And it ain't nice.

Though I do agree with your reasoning. It's that obliviousness/indifference that does the tip. You gotta send mixed signals though. At least that's what I think. Like don't be a total cold bore, but rather be that awesome guy, who's fun to be with, but out of their reach for some reason.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 12:04 pm 
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the friend zone is when you don't display enough attraction so you get rejected but because you were nice she says you can stay friends. Mostly that doesn't even happen...


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:35 am 
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Yeah there is a difference between female friends who you flirted with but never pursued and are actual friends with - and female friends who you tried to fuck and friend-zoned your ass...

The actual female friends, yeah Iv'e had them get drunk and cheat on their boyfriends and stuff with me in the past, all initiated 100% by them


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